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[–] [email protected] 53 points 1 week ago

Better add more green leaf symbols and sustainability pledges to their products to even it out.

[–] kautau 27 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Yeah they are literally paying to reopen three mile island to power their AI training

https://www.technologyreview.com/2024/09/26/1104516/three-mile-island-microsoft/

[–] douglasg14b 12 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Honestly nuclear isn't a bad deal for that. Clean, sustainable, safe, compared to non-renewables.

Though old ass reactors seem sus.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 week ago

Everything will be fine if they don't decide to test the reactors with inexperienced people.

[–] [email protected] 16 points 1 week ago (1 children)

No worries US tax payer will fund electrical generation facilities for these parasites

Take note, they pay lower rate than you to run their AI trash lol

[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 week ago (1 children)

They pay less because of bulk energy pricing. It's cheaper to serve a lot of electricity to one customer than the same amount to a lot of customers. It's the same reason things at Costco are cheaper per unit vs your local grocery store.

So no, taxpayers aren't funding it, Microsoft is funding it through their electricity bill.

[–] [email protected] -3 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Nice Mental gymnastics dear, but these jedi tricks don't work on plebs anymore.

Then why did three mile island operator is getting federal loans...

If micro-shit don't buy enough, taxpayer forgives the loan

Clown capitalism lol

And y'all laep it and come for seconds.

Get a glue

[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

Probably the same reason a nuclear plant is getting a loan to reopen in Michigan. The government offers a loan program at attractive rates, so why wouldn't they apply?

Energy needs in the region will continue to increase regardless of what Microsoft does. New York used to have higher energy production from nuclear, and this could end up replacing some natural gas supply.

It seems like you're looking for reasons to oppose it instead of looking at the facts.

[–] [email protected] -3 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Ain't it grand that pedons pay for everything then get priced gouged on the back end haha

Shouldnt private capital and debt fund capex of corporate parasites

Asking for a friend lol

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 week ago

Utilities are in a weird situation of being private, but extremely regulated, especially for nuclear. I don't know how NY and MI work, but in my state, the electric company has to ask for approval for rate hikes.

Since there's already so much overlap, I'm honestly okay with the federal loans here, especially with the level of assets the company already has, which makes it a really low risk loan (though I don't know the terms of the loan). All that's really happening here is the federal government is giving it a lower rate.

[–] [email protected] 15 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

That's not a bad thing. The question is: has their carbon footprint changed?

This electricity usage jump is accompanied by a 42% increase in total carbon emissions

That should be the headline

[–] [email protected] 14 points 1 week ago

Capital is literally going to destroy the planet so a few dickheads can have yachts.

[–] RememberTheApollo_ 13 points 1 week ago

We normal people need to recycle harder to save the planet and cut back on greenhouse emissions from power production so corporations can continue to consume with impunity.

[–] yesman 10 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Consider that the cost of energy is going to be the limiting factor on AI. When the VC dries up, who is going to pay the light bill?

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 week ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 week ago

Has to look it up. 1m² of soil.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 week ago

and windows got worse cos microsoft only knows how to suck ass. I wonder if they have a new contraption or more space in seattle for all the ass they are sucking.