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Brian Thompson's case shows systemic vs direct violence: one hidden as "civilized," the other viewed as evil.
Technology and bureaucracy weaponized for murder and suffering on a massive scale, yet his killer is condemned for directly responding with the same violence Thompson’s actions produced. I only feel sorry for the people who are suffering or have passed away due to the healthcare industry.
I've heard the term "social murder" recently I'm relation to this. He might not have personally used a weapon against them but anyone who had died as a result of denying coverage for a life-threatening condition has been murdered socially.
My condolences to his family, even though no insurance company ever gave my family condolences when they let my mom die
Reddit Admins are watching their site burn because basically everybody is supporting and condoning the killer, and they don't like that. Its quite funny.
Mods going nuts banning people and coming back tomorrow to a completely empty subreddit.
Corpos gonna corp
We're just training their AI model
It's such a weird place to be.
We are all trying to be respectful. A person has died, and that is a horrible thing. But this guy runs a company that has cause so much suffering to so many people. He may not be directly responsible for pain, suffering, and likely death, but if he had run his company more fairly, none of that would have happened.
When people made jokes about trump nearly getting killed, people kicked off and said it was abhorant to wish death upon him (despite him being a foul human being)
But I really want to just say this guy deserves it and tell people to fuck off trying to make me be respectful of this terrible person.
Somebody validate my anger.
Somebody just tell me i can hate this individual and not be bothered that he died.
Fuck that dude. You can be happy when bad people die. It's normal to laugh and even cheer when someone that has caused the death of many people gets what is due to them. You just feel odd about it because we aren't used to seeing rich and power people face consequences.
I wish more of these public and mass shooter actually use their energy and focus on a positive act for change. Our collective empathy has been stolen in this current system. We aren't supposed to bat an eye when kids get shot in school, but NOW it's a problem and we shouldn't joke. Fuck off with that noise.
Somebody validate my anger.
I work at a children's hospital, a couple times a week United Healthcare denies treatment that could allow some of my pediatric patients with severe mobility issues to do things like run, or play outside with their friends. All because having a somewhat normal life isn't medically necessary, or isn't a covered benefit, or were not a preferred provider....and the nearest in network provider is 6 hours away.
Every time I have to explain to a parent that Medicaid would have paid for this, but mom and dad worked a little too hard and so they don't qualify for state care.... I die a little on the inside.
So I for one don't really care about being respectful, and can reassure you that you shouldn't feel the need to either. People who show no humanity towards disabled children are not human in my book.
Today has been cathartic and I'm going to have a little pep in my step on my walk home.
think of it this way: The dude caused a TON of death. The assassin saved people's lives.
I have as much sympathy for him as his company has shown me
fleeing on a rented e-bike
"Thheeere goooes my hero, Watch him as he goes"
Perhaps the 9mm pistol is the guillotine of the next American revolution.
TBH I always wondered why people were shooting up malls and schools instead of the people who actually cause the societal conditions they're upset with
Edit: to be clear I'm not promoting this, it just never made sense to me
Billionnaires control the medias and social medias. They are purposely creating divides between the population to avoid being the target.
It's called stochastic terrorism or stochastic violence. Essentially people are made increasingly angry and violence prone. Either the object of their anger is inaccessible or too diffuse to actually target.
As a result, random acts of semi-targetted violence become increasingly common. If your objective is to create an atmosphere where people have a higher baseline level of fear, which can drive irrational reactionary behavior, it does wonders. It's also great at increasing violent acts against people you dislike without explicitly calling for it.
Shame that only damage from the first bullet was covered. Every shot after that was a pre-existing condition. Maybe he would have made it.
Does anyone know how many people his company screwed over by denying insurance claims or how many suffered and died due to not paying enough or not reading the fine print, i won't celebrate his death but i can't say i'm sad that he's gone or anyone like him for that matter.
The writing has been on the wall since the ACA got rewritten by these same companies. Instead of reforming the system to making it more fair these corporations were prioritized over us and our health.
There is no path to justice, all the evil shit they do has been deemed lawful, so it's not like a lawsuit will do anything and it's certainly not going to change anything for anyone else.
And now with the incoming administration teasing to remove even the smallest of teeth from the aca, it really does feel hopeless. The government is protecting profit over people and I'm surprised it took so long for somebody to finally snap. In an ideal society we would have reforms before stuff like this started happening
It's one of those situations where big money will use illegal or unfair means to sway or change law, then tell the people to "play by the rules" or "do it the right way" after having changed it to be heavily in their favor. Most people will try to do it the "right" way too as it's the only realistic option. Until it is so unreasonable that other methods end up being more palatable.
It's a Hydra. Cut off one head, there's 5 waiting to take this guy's place.
Eh, hydras aren't made up of individuals who have a desire to be alive.
Not that I'm advocating for it, but I imagine if you kept killing folks then you'd eventually get to someone who liked "breathing" more than "money."
You cut off a few more heads, and they'll start to be a little more cautious with their shitty actions.
I swear I read "finally shoot" and was like based CNN!
His company is offering a reward of one free appeal of a claim denial for information leading to his arrest!
I refuse to celebrate the man's death. That just doesn't sit right with me.
However, I'll climb on my soap box long enough to point out that first, an insurance business model is fundamentally incompatible with healthcare. It does not work on basically any level and the need for profit will always be in conflict with the need to provide high quality healthcare.
Second, this conflict between the need for profitability and providing healthcare means that most of the health insurance industry is built on a foundation of ethical compromises. For profit health insurance companies like UnitedHealth are just straight up immoral. Any business that has to give loyalty to shareholders at the expense of anyone's life and health is immoral. Not to mention the incredible amount of work health insurance companies have done to effectively rig much of the American medical system for their own benefit.There are lots of corporations that do lots of bad things but I would classify for profit health insurance as a special kind of evil.
As much as they like to pretend they're the good guys, the good guy doesn't make it their sole mission to extract as much money as possible from their customers before they die while doing the bare minimum to keep them from dying.
Long way of saying, my condolences to the guys family. Having your husband/father/etc. assassinated in the street has to be awful. At the same time, screw UnitedHealth. They're a bunch of worthless blood sucking vampires.
My feelings are exactly what they would be if the head of a vicious mafia was just assassinated. Probably because the head of a vicious mafia was just assassinated.
How evil does a person have to be before it is acceptable to celebrate his death? This man devoted his life to profiting from human suffering. The fact that the law was on his side does not excuse his actions; it simply means that he worked within an evil system.
I'll celebrate for the both of us.
First thing they're gonna do is trace cellphones connected to nearby towers and cross-reference any new signal.
Hellova task in Manhattan to begin with. And people doing this job are likely not going to be clvery motivated.
Hope he was smart enough to not bring smartphone.
Everyone's assuming that this was a patient who was denied coverage or family member of a patient who was denied coverage, the thing is this sort of person will have made enemies in the corporate world as well.
For all we know this was a professional hit.
Maybe we could have patched him back together, but all the nearby hospitals were out of network.