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[–] [email protected] 16 points 1 day ago (2 children)

i love it when modders get so up their own ass, they make themselves look moronic to everyone.

i recall the huge cringy "petition" made by BG3 modders demanding to be told what fixes would come in patches made by devs because they were "fed up" with having to fix their mods after patches would break things.

its quite funny when modders think they run the show.

[–] SkyezOpen 10 points 1 day ago

Except when they do run the show like for Bethesda games. They won't or can't fix their own shit.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I don't know about the specific situation you are talking about, but this sounds like a perfectly fine request. Needing to spent time debugging your mod at random because an unexpected patch just dropped and players suddenly can't use it anymore doesn't sound fun. Especially considering how little extra work it would take the studio to document their fix to the mod community a bit early.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 day ago (2 children)

its not the request, its the entitlement that the letter displays.

they did not create this game. they are not entitled to demand and petition for such things. stuff being updated and breaking mods is annoying, but it happens.

modders do not own the game they mod for. nor are they entitled to be included in development updates just because they're annoyed that they need to fix issues that may arise as a result of a game being patched by those who made it.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 day ago

I don't see what you find cringy or entitled from this open letter, they explain the problems they encounter while working on mods and explain how Larian can help with that. This is the best way to handle such a request as a group.

And no, they aren't entitled to their demands, but that doesn't mean that those demands aren't admissible. While they do not own the game itself, they do contribute to it's success and the studio will benefit from helping them.

Also, it seems like you view modding as just some small tweaks for the fun of it (which might be the case for bg3, but from the letter it doesn't seem so), but some game mods can become fairly huge, both in work size and popularity. While I don't know much about the bg3 scene, I remember quite a few minecraft modders who received death threats because they "took too long" to update their mods to the latest version. There's a real pressure behind that work, you can't just brush it off because "they don't own the game"

[–] takeda 2 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Sure, but it's that wrong to asking for something? The studio can always ignore such request.

Many games welcome mods, because those can increase interest in the game or provide new ideas.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 day ago

asking for something is completely reasonable. but behaving like you're entitled to that and trying to divide the community seems to me to be a bit of a dick move.

mods are just that. mods. they modify the original work with their own additions. just because someone mods something, does not mean they're in the position to behave in such a manner.

i was very put off by the wording in that open letter and I was not the only one. the community it was originally posted in also picked up on the antagonistic way it was written.

[–] cactusupyourbutt 10 points 1 day ago

nitpick: they were dubbed as anticitizens by the person decompiling the code, and not by the original code author

[–] Stern 12 points 1 day ago (1 children)

ahh yes, if you block them from playing, surely they won't make any content about that and will go on with their day. Brilliant idea. 🙄

[–] wccrawford 4 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Yup. Feeding the trolls. Doomed to failure.

[–] Stern 3 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

I mean, its not trolling if the mod has persistent issues that keep not getting addressed and those keep getting pointed out. Like folks pointing out how bad darksydephil is at video games isn't trolling because he's legit awful at video games. It can cross the line of course, but just pointing out the dude is trash isn't doing that.

Though, to be fair, I don't know the youtubers in question so maybe they are just huge assholes. vOv

[–] pivot_root 4 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

Those mod devs are absolute assholes.

As per the decompiled code, the game will refuse to load in certain cases with the message "Upgrade your PC, the current hardware is just ridiculous." I can understand not wanting to field support requests from extremely outdated hardware, but being condescending and not even giving players the option to try playing it...

BriJee, Amigus, and Obsolete— sincerely, go fuck yourselves.