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[–] [email protected] 13 points 2 weeks ago (3 children)

Can't wait for a Brexin and have them losing all the special treatment they used to have as members of the Union!

[–] [email protected] 12 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (2 children)

As much as I hate Brexin as a name. Brin is better.

Honestly, us brits that watched from the mid 80s. (was born in 70). And supported the EU agree with you.

We had a huge majority to join in 74. But never really seemed to feel a part of the union.

Much of it was our gov and media blaming the EU for crap. Heck, to the point, the EU had a website dedicated to UK press lies.

But none of the UK press seemed to take up that story until Brexit. When the harm was already done. Even then it was minimal.

Honestly, we seem to have some of the most corrupt press in Europe.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 2 weeks ago

Yep, the media really fuck us over. Ran by oligarchs, most of them

[–] [email protected] 5 points 2 weeks ago

i mean the uk never felt a part of the union because they demanded special treatment to keep them different like not adopting the euro, etc.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 2 weeks ago

It was always destined to be that dumb.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

Worth it, tho. I'm in.

[–] TheTechnician27 11 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (2 children)

I agree with the idea that the UK should foster closer ties with the EU (and that they should rejoin), but this poll seems really badly formed. Respondents were given four options:

  • Getting a free trade agreement with the USA (28%)
  • A closer trading relationship with the EU (49%)
  • Don't know (21%)
  • Prefer not to say (2%)

So it presents two main options which 1) are not mutually exclusive and more importantly 2) represent a false dichotomy. Despite this, there is no option for "Neither", "Both", or "Other" – instead just "Don't know". Given people in the UK have had nearly a decade to develop strong opinions on trade with the EU after it came to the fore with Brexit, the pretty large 21% "Don't know" seems to reflect that a lot of people whose vote would have said "Neither" probably fell into "Don't know". The option about the EU is extremely vague about a "closer trading relationship" which could mean a million different things to different people, while the one about the US is strictly "a free trade agreement".

[–] [email protected] 7 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Sorta like the brexit vote.

[–] TheTechnician27 3 points 2 weeks ago

It really does have an interesting parallel, doesn't it?

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 weeks ago

Has anyone in US said they are interested in free trade either with UK or EU? Last time it was dangled for UK, it got cancelled.

[–] Alexstarfire 10 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Britain about as dumb as the US.

[–] pdxfed 9 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

I'm not sure who wins in a battle or cutting off their economic nose to spite their face in the ring between ignorant, manipulable racists in the UK vs. the US. Truly a bout for the ages, going 10 rounds for sure.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

I mean, we are basically father and son, and the apple didn't fall very far from the tree.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Technically, France is more daddy to the US. Given its France they turned to when separating from the UK. We're more of the laudanum addicted mummy, blaming them for the fact we got old and ugly.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

France was just the new legal guardian. The UK was the abusive father that had child protective services called on them.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 weeks ago

Ah so France is the US stepdad.

And suddenly a lot of modern porn makes more sense.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 weeks ago

countries should turn away from the dollar and fight trump on every stand but what will happen is they'll all grovel toward him and normalise him because they'd rather pander to the far right in their countries instead of the majority of their citizens.

[–] mrmule 2 points 2 weeks ago

Awaiting Breentry