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[–] SheeEttin 31 points 1 year ago (3 children)

I think cuffing and taking an 11-year-old to juvie for being an idiot is completely unnecessary.

I also don't see anything in the article about investigating whoever it was that was encouraging the prank.

[–] [email protected] 13 points 1 year ago (2 children)

My issue is not so much that she was taken to juvie. That's a solid lesson in not make false crimes with really no impact at this age. My issue is that she's still there. Where are the parents? Why can't she be released. A little scare is one thing, but I don't think an 11 year old should really be held all the way until trial for a misdemeanor that was dumb and not malicious.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I agree with your overall points but wanted to call out that she got hit with a felony and a misdemeanor.

I don't really know the ins-and-outs of the legal system, but I really hope that felony charge gets reduced or, at a minimum, doesn't follow her around into adulthood. Would be a shame for her record to be marred like that long-term for a misguided prank pulled when she was 11.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago

Literally any felony including murder gets sealed and wiped away in adulthood. There is no impact to this.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Your issue is that she's still there? The article implies that this only happened yesterday, so she's only been there for 1 day. That's not unreasonable for a felony.

[–] FlyingSquid 5 points 1 year ago (1 children)

One day could be more than enough to traumatize a kid. She's 11 and she played a very stupid prank likely because she didn't understand the consequences due to being 11 years old. She doesn't need to be put with 16-year-old violent offenders. Not even for a day.

My daughter is a very well-behaved kid, but she also has terrible anxiety. If, by some similar incident that she didn't realize was so serious, she ended up in juvie for a day, she would end up with PTSD.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

I understand what you're saying completely. I'm not even saying that I disagree with you - to be honest, I'm not quite sure what to think about this circumstance.

However, I will say that there are limits to being lax on someone just because they are a child. This was a serious offense that could have cost multiple people their lives and a serious response is justifiably warranted.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Yeah. She's 11 and didn't commit a violent crime. I expect she would be taken into custody, paperwork filed and then released into her parent's care. That's normally how it works for non-violent offenses especially for first time offenders.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

If we were talking about shoplifting, sure. This case is more serious, however, and I'm not sure the same approach would be taken under the circumstances.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 year ago

I also see nothing about billing the parents of both parties for police time and other resources used.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I see some value in it. Don't keep her overnight or cause permanent damage to her life, but these kids are for sure a little out of control and unparented.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago

Eh, I doubt it's because she's "out of control and unparented". According to the article she was at home with her parents when she decided to copy a prank she saw in a youtube video. The whole incident played out in under 90 minutes, even the best parent can't (and shouldn't) watch their kid 100% of the time. Kids have poor impulse control and do dumb shit. Give her a stern talking to and a slap on the wrist, and call it a day.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 year ago

I think we need to teach these kids that this shit ain't happenin'