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Summary

Israel and Hezbollah accused each other of ceasefire violations two days into a truce that ended 14 months of conflict.

Israel claims Hezbollah breached terms by approaching border zones, while Hezbollah accuses Israel of firing on civilians.

Brokered by the US and France, the ceasefire involves a gradual Israeli withdrawal and Hezbollah’s pullback north of the Litani River, with U.N. peacekeepers taking over.

The war killed over 3,700 in Lebanon and 70 in Israel, displacing 1.2 million in Lebanon and 50,000 in Israel.

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[–] [email protected] 36 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Those numbers are insane. 50k is NOTHING compared to 1.2 MILLION

[–] small44 -3 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (2 children)

I don't believe the numbers. There is no way that Israel accepted a cease fire with that numbers of casualities

[–] Iceblade02 7 points 2 weeks ago (3 children)

Why not?

The stated goal of entering Lebanon was to end the threat from Hezbollah - if they stay away from the border and allow the Lebanese government to enforce rule of law, hasn't that been fulfilled?

[–] small44 4 points 2 weeks ago

Hizbollah is still a threat with more than 10k fighters. Israel is lying about it's casualities numbers and impose censorship to hide figures

https://youtu.be/WFpS_yrLXHY?si=2My3YWMaw0PGO_kS

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 weeks ago

You'd think. You'd be wrong. The problem started when you used logic and math.

I start to worry there's an exchange rate of 1 Zionist for 20 'others'. That could explain why they think they can kill so many others before their egos are assuaged.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 2 weeks ago
[–] Maggoty 29 points 2 weeks ago

Israel considers anyone returning to the area to be Hezbollah. Despite a cease fire meant to end the fighting they are still telling people it's off limits. Which means they will shoot at them. In order to justify that they'll call them Hezbollah in the international press.

Israel is used to controlling the information sphere and they still think they can blame their victims.

[–] gmtom 26 points 2 weeks ago

Wow they both made violations, so they must be the same right?

Oh hezbollah just approached a border zone while Israel shot up a bunch of civilians. Oh yeah, both sides.

[–] RizzRustbolt 10 points 2 weeks ago

Hezbollah: starts withdrawing according to the agreement

Israel: shoots civilians

Hezbollah: "motha pussbucket..."

[–] Ksin 4 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

I really wonder how Hezbollah are going to take effectively ceding territory to the Lebanese Armed Forces(LAF). The agreement apparently mandates that after the 60 day transfer process that LAF, alongside UN forces, become the sole military presence in southern Lebanon, an area previously held by Hezbollah. While the two forces are "friendly" at the moment it also wasn't all too long ago that they fought on opposite sides of the Lebanese Civil War, and to me it's looking a lot like this agreement will push them closer to resuming that conflict.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

Holy fuck, I click the plus sign to learn a little bit more about this topic, and my browser-based Lemmy web UI autoplays a video with sound. This is the first time I've noticed such a thing on Lemmy and worries me: will we need plugins/extensions to stop such things? Why isn't the sound muted by default?

Probably I could block the community for now, but I'm talking more about this new trend that I have not noticed before on Lemmy.

Can anyone recommend an extension to auto-mute these videos? I use Firefox on Android, with Blokada 5 app, and the extensions uBlock Origin, and Privacy Badger. I am not certain of the video type - OP has not inserted it, so it seems to be pulled automatically from the source, as: https://prod.vodvideo.cbsnews.com/cbsnews/vr/hls/3368993_hls/master.m3u8.

If it helps, this seems strictly a Lemmy issue: none of PieFed or Mbin or Tesseract do this autoplay:

[–] [email protected] 7 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

Don't see this on Firefox (with ublock Origin) on desktop Lemmy web UI.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

Hrm, me either. Both desktop Firefox and Chrome leave a GINORMOUS gap (>1 full page height for me) but don't show the video. The only Extension I have in that Firefox is uBlock Origin, and Chrome has none.

Safari not only auto-plays the video, but after I paused it and scrolled down it started to auto-play again, though pausing it the second time worked so it may have been some oddness in something not being finished downloading (yet it still started up the video regardless!).

Can these kinds of "ads" be pointed to as evidence that Lemmy no longer restricts advertising - i.e., it's main selling point? Netflix likewise does "not" have "ads" either - those videos that auto-play after you watch something, and when you pause something, and when you don't select something fast enough, and when you leave the player connected for too long, etc. - those, again, are "not" ads, just so you know. You know, um... in the sense that "well ackshually" they aren't (except, in fact, they are).

Edit: I also see the giant gap from https://startrek.website/post/16820546 too, but NOT from the OP Lemmy.World post. It looks like this may be related? I'm glad that video embeds are working again but... when they auto-play like that, WITH SOUND, that seems to cross a line for me. :-(

[–] Maggoty 1 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Weird I'm on the same instance as the community and poster and I see no video.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 weeks ago

I'm pretty sure that's bc you are on Lemmy.World, which is still running older Lemmy software 0.19.3.

I made a separate post describing this issue. The TLDR for you is that it won't affect you until Lemmy.World upgrades to the modern software version.

After Lemmy.World, the #2 instance on the Fediverse (in terms of users) is Lemmynsfw.com, which is likewise running old software (probably awaiting the new admins asked for). And the #3 is lemm.ee, which does demonstrate this problem.

So even if it does not affect you, yet, it does a lot of other people right now, and will eventually affect everyone using the Lemmy web UI (I don't know if or which apps might be affected).

[–] [email protected] -3 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

For a change, I am inclined to believe both of them.

Edit: You're an idiot if you trust either one. They both lie.

[–] IndustryStandard 5 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (1 children)

Big mistake. No ceasefire violations from Hezbollah so far. Around 18 by Israel since Wednesday.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 weeks ago

There is no proof of this yet one way or the other.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 weeks ago

Israel claims without evidence that displaced people driving in cars to return to the border region are Hisbollah and bombs them. No attacks by Hisbollah so far, to my knowledge. That then gets reported as "both sides violating the ceasefire"