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[–] shadmere 70 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)

I feel like I'm lucky now if they're even willing to SELL me the utility that used to come standard.

More than half the time, when the new, sleek product gets rid of functionality, the response to, "How do I do all the things I need to do?" is essentially, "You don't!"

And if you ask to keep using the previous product, the response is, "No."

[–] [email protected] 13 points 3 weeks ago
[–] marcos 3 points 3 weeks ago

That's a good time to change manufacturers.

[–] [email protected] 47 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)

This is how I feel about ultra-slim laptops that only have USB-C ports. I don't care if it needs to be 10% thicker, I want a usable port damn it!

[–] [email protected] 18 points 3 weeks ago (3 children)

Funnily enough, there was a post arguing about this not so long ago.

I know adapters exist, but for something like HDMI that I use quite regularly, I'll have a dedicated port thanks.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)

I tried using an HDMI adapter (the kind you is find on these tiny USB C hubs to bring along your laptop) for playing proper video and the sound was missing everything under like 200hz, unwatchable. It's clearly made to show spreadsheets and PowerPoints and not much else.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 3 weeks ago

The output is capped at 4k 30hz on the cheaper ones, and I assume the cheaper ones wouldn't have particularly good audio.

HDMI still has the edge over all but the very latest version of USB C, at least with high end equipment. But, it works fine for PowerPoint, which is exactly what I'm using it for.

[–] Katana314 1 points 3 weeks ago

Hm. Might depend on the hub or cable type. I’m able to get 2560x1440 or (not and) 120hz refresh rate on my HDMI connection. And that limitation seems to come from my laptop GPU.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 5 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)

They basically have the dongle built into the laptop, don't they?

[–] [email protected] 9 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

Pretty much. A fun exercise tho is to pop them out and connect them to my phone when i need ethernet, for... reasons...

[–] [email protected] 3 points 3 weeks ago

Fuck! How come I never thought of that???!!!!!

[–] [email protected] 2 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago)

Which is a great approach IMO. The advantages of dongles without the inconvenience. The Framework 16 has 6 ports which is more than enough for me. I use two USB-C, two USB-A, headphone, and SD card. I sometimes swap the SD card slot for MicroSD, and one of the USB-C for Ethernet. I have HDMI and DisplayPort for if I need them.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)

Quick question: USB-C docks with HDMI have their iwn DAC for audio while video gets passed through?

[–] [email protected] 3 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

doesn't hdmi send digital audio?

[–] [email protected] 2 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago)

USB-C supports both digital and analog audio. HDMI only supports digital audio though, so in that case the DAC would be in whatever device you're plugging the HDMI cable into.

[–] Clent 11 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)

You'd think there would be a thinner Ethernet port by now. That standard is several decades old.

[–] [email protected] 14 points 3 weeks ago

I agree with the notion, but at the same time, I think no one wants to deal with the mess of having two different kinds of Ethernet plugs. I mean, if you think about it, needing dongles for connecting Ethernet to USB-C is exactly what would happen, if you had two different Ethernet plugs. So, at this rate, might as well start having USB-C ports on routers, so you can run a USB-C cable all the way...

[–] [email protected] 13 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

There is. Most laptops have RJ45 ports that fold out now a days.

[–] Retrograde 4 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago) (2 children)

Why can't we just do Ethernet over USB C.. 🤔

[–] [email protected] 19 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

You can. I have ethernet, 2 monitors, mouse, keyboard, webcam, speaker and power all running over a single USB-C

[–] Retrograde 1 points 3 weeks ago

This .. must be the way

[–] TheBat 1 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

There are docking stations that gives secondary display, power, and wired nerwork connection over single USB-C port. Usually along with keyboard, mouse, and USB-A ports.

[–] Retrograde 1 points 3 weeks ago

Aye I know, I work in IT, I'm just saying maybe routers should have USB C ports and just ditch Ethernet altogether 😊

[–] [email protected] 29 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 4 points 3 weeks ago

Thought something was missing

[–] [email protected] 28 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

you simply rent these attachments, $9.99/mo each

[–] beebarfbadger 2 points 3 weeks ago

That sounds bad. Can't I just subscribe to have them provided for $9.99/mo each? Sounds much better.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 3 weeks ago

Oh no indeed