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I'm shocked. Shocked, I tell you. Shocked to learn that dealers are ignoring Volkswagen's now-former CEO's strongly-worded caution for dealerships not to add additional dealer markup the already expensive ID Buzz.

Okay, well, maybe not that shocked. But it's happening—dealerships are doubling down on Volkswagen's egregiously-priced electric people hauler by adding markups as high as $15,000, effectively locking out consumers who were already stretched thin on their budget following the German automaker's surprisingly high price announcement earlier this year.

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[–] [email protected] 6 points 5 hours ago

Next up: VW complains that the ID Buzz isn’t selling as well as expected.

[–] taiyang 7 points 9 hours ago (2 children)

This is frustrating, as I'm getting more and more pressure from extended family for me to get a minivan for the kids to make trips to visit and junk. I refuse to get a gas powered one and in general I hate how virtually all of them look. This gave me a glimmer of hope but no, it's already a high sticker price and a low range and now dealers are going to make it worse?

Forget that. I'll wait for the better batteries in a few years, I guess.

[–] Yankee_Self_Loader 4 points 4 hours ago (1 children)

How about they come to you? If they want to see the kiddos so badly how about they make the effort rather than you having to buy a new car just so they can spend time with the babies? I understand if said family is elderly but I’d be pretty pissed if my able bodied family expected me to buy a new car for their convenience.

[–] taiyang 1 points 3 hours ago* (last edited 3 hours ago)

Weeeelllll, some are elderly, but in my dad's case, he's a raging alcoholic. I guess not wanting to drive when you're always drunk is a positive. Honestly forcing him to go sober to see my kid is a good thing, lol.

But yeah, I'm with you on this one. My sedan works just fine, it's not like I'm taking my 2 year old to hockey practice or something.

[–] MutilationWave 2 points 8 hours ago

Bah you just don't want to drive a van, then you'd have to admit you're old. Just kidding.

[–] madcaesar 25 points 13 hours ago (1 children)

Car dealers need to go away. They are antiquated parasites. They can keep their service departments if they want, otherwise they can fuck off.

[–] MutilationWave 11 points 8 hours ago

Service departments are bullshit too. Generally worse than average in an industry that is a huge grift-up.

[–] [email protected] 25 points 14 hours ago (3 children)

So it's a normal thing in the US for car dealers to add a markup? It's pretty much the other way round here in Germany, car dealers give you a rebate on the listed price and you choose the dealership that offers you the best price.

[–] Plum 19 points 13 hours ago

Now apply this model to basically everything, and that's how you get to american capitalism. More is More. In More We Trust.

[–] IsThisAnAI 2 points 10 hours ago

It's the same thing here. This is a new special model that'll only be available in limited quantities of it sells as expected.

The vast majority of models will be discounted. It's pretty easy to find 15% off less desirable models.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 13 hours ago (1 children)

That's the same thing, but more profitable in America. Instead of trying to undercut each other, they just try to be second lowest, which results in markups instead of discounts.

[–] MutilationWave 3 points 8 hours ago

You mean second highest?

[–] reddig33 11 points 14 hours ago (1 children)

Still waiting for a major car manufacturer to sue to sell direct and undo this nonsense.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 13 hours ago

Tesla fought for that many years ago, and that's why in some states the company itself sells directly to consumers

[–] [email protected] 12 points 15 hours ago

So basically, car dealers are greedy scum. Gotcha.

[–] dinckelman 12 points 15 hours ago

Parasites try to leech off the host, more at 11

[–] [email protected] 4 points 12 hours ago (1 children)

This is relatively common for a new model car that is in demand charge a markup to people who cannot wait, then when those people run out lower prices. sometimes this lasts for a week sometimes for a month.

the real question is how soon until they start making deals.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 9 hours ago

And sometimes on specific cars (usually enthusiast cars) the markup never goes away because the dealer knows that eventually someone will pay it.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 13 hours ago (2 children)

Why is VW trying to force them to sell at a lower price? They could just add $15,000 to the car.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 13 hours ago

From what I've read, dealers hate electric cars because they make a lot of money off maintenance after they sold the car. Electric cars don't require oil changes or anything like that.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 13 hours ago

There must be some kind of marketing interest to grab popularity by selling it well.