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It’s probably worse than we know because many states covered up Covid deaths. Politicians and hospitals didn’t want it to look like they were failing. Suspiciously, other causes of death (like pneumonia or heart disease) mysteriously spiked during the pandemic.
Florida did accounting trickery to try and downplay Covid deaths. If the persons primary residence was outside Florida they wouldn’t add it to the Covid totals. Then they tried to punish the health department workers who blew the whistle.
They didn’t “try to punish” her. They fired her after she blew the whistle on some sketchy pandemic data shit, and then DeSantis had a SWAT team raid and threaten her family in their own home. That’s a real thing that happened. It’s a matter of public record.
Excess mortality's hard to cover up.
I mean, unless the right wants to pretend those people are still alive.
I wonder what a republican thinks when they read a study like this. Especially the jerks that argued with cashiers during that time.
They'd be very upset if they could read
I'm someone that would be Republican if the GOP hadn't lost their fucking minds. You could call me a conservative.
Presumably you can already tell what I think. Those fucking idiots, I hope the contingent of that party dies off quickly enough that reasonable conservatives can salvage what's left.
Anyone who is conservative but doesn’t want to buy into all of the anger and outrage all the time really doesn’t have a party right now.
You're not wrong. And it's worse for the people who think like I do. We've been labeled "neoliberals", a term I'm not exactly a fan of and labeled centrists. In fact we're quite the opposite. We're so conservative it starts to look liberal again, bordering on anarchocapitalism (which is more where I find myself).
Depends. The fascist wing will just cry fake news. The moderates will just point at the fascist wing.
“See? I told you that doctors don’t care about you: look at how they do everything they can for vaxxers but the SECOND they hear you’re questioning, they don’t give a shit about you. Fucking sick.”
They'll claim its because doctors weren't treating people if they weren't vaxxed. They were making claims like this during the height of the pandemic so now they just have evidence to prove it, obviously.
Remember when doctors/hospitals were getting paid if they claimed covid as the cause of death even for people who died in an accident? I member.
Probably similar to the whole "narcissist prayer"
You think shit like this ever makes it to their eyes with the comfortable protective bubble they've built around themselves?
They will just say it's fake news.
Republicans don't read studies, lol
What they think and what they’ll admit publicly are two different things. Look at Fox News, when this data started to come out in 2021 they started begging their viewers to get vaccinated because they realized it could cost elections.
Conservatives all around the world made up claims of liberals making up death numbers by including distant cases like being hit by a car while covid-infected. This post makes a big part of that theory fall apart because it can't explain Republicans having more deaths.
Considering the stories I’ve heard about nurses being threatened for “making up” an illness during COVID, I think they’d have plenty of “explanations”
Republicans became shittier drivers during COVID.
"The researchers did not have complete data—the linked data didn't contain a cause of death or vaccination status." Hmm, mighty bold claim there guys.
You missed an important bit:
But, they could evaluate excess weekly deaths by age, state, county, and party affiliation. They found that the gap in excess deaths was larger in counties with lower vaccination rates, suggesting that lack of vaccination among Republican voters may partly explain the higher death rates.
Here’s the thing about excess mortality during COVID… most of it was from COVID