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[–] [email protected] 88 points 3 days ago (2 children)

I cant really take the people that act as apologists for Russia seriously as real leftists. Like, forget the failings of the Soviet Union at implementing communism for a moment, Russia doesnt even play lip service to it. It is literally just as much a capitalist state as a place like the US, it is just as much an example of a country benefiting from the legacy of European colonial empires as countries like the US, UK, and France (and even still retains most of its old empire), and it is certainly imperialist, because it is actively seeking to conquer the territory of other peoples by military force, right now. You would think that an actual communist should hate it, for taking one of the most prominent examples of a communist revolution, implementing the ideas so badly as to discredit them in the eyes of much of the world, and then ultimately betraying that revolution outright and slipping back into autocratic capitalism again. It is perhaps one of the least leftist countries on the planet right now. And yet, somehow it has convinced a significant chunk of those that count themselves among the left that it can do no wrong. I could sort of understand it from people living in Russia itself, criticism of one's own country can be hard sometimes, but so many of its defenders seem to be Americans who take "the enemy of my enemy is my friend" way past the point where it ceases to be reasonable.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 days ago

A lot of them justify their defense of fascist-imperialist Russia with revolutionary defeatism. It is a much more difficult argument to deconstruct than the argument that Russia is somehow still socialist.

In my view, it is similar to accelerationism, and so the same arguments against accelerationism work against revolutionary defeatism. Marxist theory also argues that improved material conditions result in increased success of liberatory movements, which is in direct contradiction to revolutionary defeatism and accelerationism. For this reason I don't believe marxism-leninism is internally consistent if it includes support for accelerationism.

[–] PapaStevesy 1 points 2 days ago

I disagree, I find it incredibly easy to criticize my shitty imperialist overlords, I don't see why it should be harder for them. /s (kinda)

[–] Neon 7 points 2 days ago (2 children)

okay, why is the Tankie portrayed as a ripped chad?

unrealistic, unimmersive, literally unplayable

[–] Shapillon 4 points 2 days ago

Isn't he mostly a twig?

[–] Valmond 3 points 2 days ago

He's just normal, it's the maga that's fat.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 2 days ago

Fash and red fash are the same people in different uniforms.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (2 children)

Interesting how they made the tankie a dippy twink but the alt-rightist a gross-looking hygienically-challenged chungus, replete with m’lady fedora.

[–] [email protected] -2 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

There's three fash here: red fash on the left, western fash on the right, and liberal fash making the cartoon.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Communists arent all scrawny white hipsters, and fascists aren't all cartoonish white 4chan users. This cartoon completely erases anyone who isnt a white dude.

People who don't agree with you have agency to make decisions. They are real people, not pathetic caricatures, and they really disagree with you.

[–] 33550336 3 points 2 days ago

Maybe there is no place to put any possible person in a cartoon?