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Jacob Hersant, a self-described Nazi, was sentenced to one month in prison, becoming the first person in Australia jailed for performing an outlawed Nazi salute.

Convicted in Victoria for making the salute outside a courthouse in October, Hersant’s act followed new legislation banning the gesture.

Magistrate Brett Sonnet justified the sentence, citing Hersant’s intent to promote Nazi ideology publicly.

Hersant’s lawyer argued that his actions were nonviolent and claimed they were protected as political expression, stating plans to appeal the ruling on constitutional grounds.

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[–] FlyingSquid 70 points 1 month ago

I have a reason to post a Riker after what happened in the U.S. on Tuesday! Oh god, it's better than therapy...

[–] FlashMobOfOne 57 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Good.

It was a mistake letting Nazis and others practice their terrorist views in public. Freedom of expression is not and never should be an absolute right.

[–] [email protected] 21 points 1 month ago (1 children)

I understand why people seem to think we should tolerate these views, because "muh free speech," but to them, I say:

[–] [email protected] 20 points 1 month ago (1 children)

The paradox of tolerance doesn't exist once you understand that tolerance is a social contract.

If one party doesn't adhere to the contract, then the other party also doesn't have to either.

[–] [email protected] 14 points 1 month ago (1 children)

I keep forgetting who said it, and I will rephrase terribly but there's this antifa quote that goes something like "A person of color, homosexual, or Jew doesn't really have a choice to stop being who they're. Meanwhile, a fascist can stop spreading their hate towards others. That's all we ask, and we won't be tolerant."

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[–] [email protected] 33 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Imagine being his lawyer and having to come up with an argument to defend him. Yeesh

[–] [email protected] 11 points 1 month ago

A lawyer one time said that his job when defending someone that couldn't be defended is guaranteeing that the prosecutors do their job property just because the guy is totally guilt

[–] Dasus 29 points 1 month ago (2 children)

"My support of political ideologies which directly propose genocide is completely non-violent, trust me bro."

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[–] yamanii 27 points 1 month ago

It's the tolerance paradox, you can't tolerate these people and have a peaceful democracy. This is the answer.

[–] in4aPenny 25 points 1 month ago (3 children)

Didn't we used to kill Nazi's and celebrate their demise in movies like Indiana Jones?

[–] emmy67 12 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Apparently we didn't kill enough

[–] in4aPenny 7 points 1 month ago (2 children)

Would be easier to continue if our state apprati didn't protect them. You'd get shot by police for shooting at Nazi's now.

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[–] Jon_Servo 14 points 1 month ago (4 children)

Self-described Nazi

Yeah, there's a term for that: Nazi. Just call them that.

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[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 month ago (1 children)

This dude looks so much like the Austrian neo-nazi Martin Sellner that it's actually uncanny. I genuinely thought this was him. Maybe they are long lost brothers?

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 month ago (1 children)

The pictured dude in the article is apparently

Tim Smartt, the lawyer for Jacob Hersant, arriving at court in Melbourne, Australia, on Friday

and not the shithead himself. But I don't disagree

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