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Metacritic is removing ‘abusive’ Dragon Age: The Veilguard reviews - Dexerto (www.dexerto.com)

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[–] Soup 15 points 14 hours ago (3 children)

…but the actual responses that Rook delivers are often a far cry from the perceived intent of the dialogue choice.

From another article I found. Look, I play Origins and I played Dragon Age 2 and I played Mass Effect 2 and…that’s just Bioware. They’re not good at writing dialogue and their games are the Call Of Duty of the Fantasy RPG genre.

I saw one example that it clarified what impact a choice would actually have by saying “this would establish a trans identity” and frankly them not being trusted to write good dialogue so many times makes clunky shit like that kinda necessary. It also suffers from the Tiffany Effect in that “Trans” is not a word that lends itself to immersion in a fantasy world.

Dragon Age games just aren’t that deep and ya’ll need to just admit it.

P.S.: I might still get Veilguard on sale and frankly the game looks like it might be the most interesting that they’ve put out so far. A few clunky attempts at inclusion shouldn’t stop you from buying a game and if it does then I don’t really give a shit about your opinion.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 17 minutes ago

Agree with your points and I think the characters look cartoonish. What I’ve seen of the dialogue looks awful. I’m a patient gamer and enjoyed DA:I, but might just completely skip this.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 11 hours ago (1 children)

I don't care at all about the anti woke idiots but objectively it looks like a bad game.

Origins is one of my favorite games of all time.

I lost a lot of faith in bioware after Iquisition. Veilgaurd seems like a shittier Inquisition.

Many reviewers turned down the difficulty to make the health spongy, repetitive combat go faster and the writing quality is Terrible.

[–] Defaced 2 points 10 hours ago

I think it looks badass, I've been watching streams on twitch and it's right up my alley so I'm buying it. If for any reason to piss off the jackasses that are hating just for hates sake.

[–] Cypher 7 points 14 hours ago (1 children)

I can’t finish any bioware games because I always get so angry at the options and dialogue yet I see them being praised all the time.

[–] Soup 2 points 11 hours ago* (last edited 11 hours ago)

They’re pretty and simple and haven’t historically pushed many boundaries. They’re “safe” games, fairly good to look at, and their worlds can be cool even if the characters and story lack depth.

But at the same time I could not have played them and my life would be no different.

[–] [email protected] 26 points 16 hours ago (2 children)

The impression i got from the article is you can say "this game is the worst zero stars" and you're fine but "this game is for degenerate f******" is a no.

[–] Soup 14 points 14 hours ago (1 children)

Yea, because one has at least a chance of being a genuine opinion and the other is some hate-crime bullshit. Is that confusing?

[–] [email protected] 3 points 13 hours ago (1 children)

Nope! It's what I'd hope. I guess I was a bit confused why there was an article, since I thought erasing hate speech was normal practice. When I was half awake this morning reading it, I wondered if I missed something.

[–] Soup 7 points 12 hours ago

For “some reason” people are more emboldened than ever to come right and be full-on garbage. And they’re shocked when maybe using targetted language, targetted at margainlized groups no less, draws special attention.

[–] [email protected] 20 points 16 hours ago

Sounds fair.

[–] sir_pronoun 23 points 17 hours ago (2 children)

I think nobody should be discriminated against because of their gender, but what the developers did to those dialogues was horrific

[–] rtxn 7 points 17 hours ago* (last edited 17 hours ago)

Those dialogues go frickin' haaard, dude!

(I hate myself for even writing this.)

[–] NOT_RICK 1 points 16 hours ago (1 children)

I didn’t see any in the story, do you know of some examples?

[–] CluckN 3 points 8 hours ago

Dunkey had some fun examples. A lot of marvel-esque quippy dialogue that really sunk in quality since the last game.

The scene most reviews reference is a badly written scene about misgendering. Crazy part is older games in the series handles these topics tremendously well while keeping the player immersed.