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[–] [email protected] 33 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

The impression i got from the article is you can say "this game is the worst zero stars" and you're fine but "this game is for degenerate f******" is a no.

[–] [email protected] 22 points 2 weeks ago

Sounds fair.

[–] Soup 14 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Yea, because one has at least a chance of being a genuine opinion and the other is some hate-crime bullshit. Is that confusing?

[–] [email protected] 6 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Nope! It's what I'd hope. I guess I was a bit confused why there was an article, since I thought erasing hate speech was normal practice. When I was half awake this morning reading it, I wondered if I missed something.

[–] Soup 9 points 2 weeks ago

For “some reason” people are more emboldened than ever to come right and be full-on garbage. And they’re shocked when maybe using targetted language, targetted at margainlized groups no less, draws special attention.

[–] sir_pronoun 26 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

I think nobody should be discriminated against because of their gender, but what the developers did to those dialogues was horrific

[–] rtxn 7 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

Those dialogues go frickin' haaard, dude!

(I hate myself for even writing this.)

[–] NOT_RICK 1 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

I didn’t see any in the story, do you know of some examples?

[–] CluckN 8 points 2 weeks ago

Dunkey had some fun examples. A lot of marvel-esque quippy dialogue that really sunk in quality since the last game.

The scene most reviews reference is a badly written scene about misgendering. Crazy part is older games in the series handles these topics tremendously well while keeping the player immersed.

[–] Soup 15 points 2 weeks ago (3 children)

…but the actual responses that Rook delivers are often a far cry from the perceived intent of the dialogue choice.

From another article I found. Look, I play Origins and I played Dragon Age 2 and I played Mass Effect 2 and…that’s just Bioware. They’re not good at writing dialogue and their games are the Call Of Duty of the Fantasy RPG genre.

I saw one example that it clarified what impact a choice would actually have by saying “this would establish a trans identity” and frankly them not being trusted to write good dialogue so many times makes clunky shit like that kinda necessary. It also suffers from the Tiffany Effect in that “Trans” is not a word that lends itself to immersion in a fantasy world.

Dragon Age games just aren’t that deep and ya’ll need to just admit it.

P.S.: I might still get Veilguard on sale and frankly the game looks like it might be the most interesting that they’ve put out so far. A few clunky attempts at inclusion shouldn’t stop you from buying a game and if it does then I don’t really give a shit about your opinion.

[–] Cypher 8 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

I can’t finish any bioware games because I always get so angry at the options and dialogue yet I see them being praised all the time.

[–] Soup 2 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

They’re pretty and simple and haven’t historically pushed many boundaries. They’re “safe” games, fairly good to look at, and their worlds can be cool even if the characters and story lack depth.

But at the same time I could not have played them and my life would be no different.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

I don't care at all about the anti woke idiots but objectively it looks like a bad game.

Origins is one of my favorite games of all time.

I lost a lot of faith in bioware after Iquisition. Veilgaurd seems like a shittier Inquisition.

Many reviewers turned down the difficulty to make the health spongy, repetitive combat go faster and the writing quality is Terrible.

[–] Defaced 2 points 2 weeks ago

I think it looks badass, I've been watching streams on twitch and it's right up my alley so I'm buying it. If for any reason to piss off the jackasses that are hating just for hates sake.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 weeks ago

Agree with your points and I think the characters look cartoonish. What I’ve seen of the dialogue looks awful. I’m a patient gamer and enjoyed DA:I, but might just completely skip this.

[–] daellat 4 points 2 weeks ago

I think of metacritic wanted to remain relevant as a source of finding out the opinion of people on a game they should have stepped in like 5 or more years ago but I wish them luck turning it around now