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[–] Concave1142 27 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

Hey cool, while you're at it, look at the predominantly white districts too!

[–] MinorLaceration 7 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)

Predominantly black would indicate whoever drew the districts was trying to suppress the pull of the black population, no?

[–] NotMyOldRedditName 6 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

Correct, they draw crazy maps that try to put as many minorities as possible in as few districts as possible so their votes while concentrated and maybe get a seat or two, prevent getting many more seats that their votes and locations would warrant.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago) (1 children)

Yep, it's called Gerrymandering.

Edit - The illegal part is when Republicans make less predominantly minority districts than they are required to by the Voting Rights Act.

[–] NotMyOldRedditName 1 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago) (1 children)

It's baffling that with todays technology it hasn't gone to mathematically distributed zones with none of the bullshit humans create, which can then be reviewed by a non partisan group to ensure nothing fucked up.

Anyone who gerrymanders (dem or gop) knows they'd lose if it happened.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 weeks ago

Yes, keeping the power is the reason both sides do it. And even if a non partisan group were to approve them, the GOP has been messing with them to suppress minorities and then just dragging their feet in changing them, or changing but in the same bad way and then running out the clock until it's "too close to the election to change the maps now". Then if they change afterwards they already got what they wanted, and then just rinse and repeat next time.

[–] barsquid 3 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

In this case the article describes the opposite. There was one predominantly black district (out of six, and 1/3 the population are black) that the state was forced essentially forced to split in two. In the article I think they even mention civil rights groups prefer the two districts.

There are two ways of fucking with district maps. The one you are thinking of is "packing," which puts as many voters as possible in one district. Another is "cracking," which spreads a large number of voters (who could win their own district-sized contest) across several other districts. This contested map seems to be undoing a "cracking."

The goal of election map fuckery is to have districts that are all either 100% or 49% opponents, that takes both packing and cracking to make it happen.

[–] MinorLaceration 2 points 3 weeks ago

Interesting. TIL about cracking.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 3 weeks ago

This is a good example of why redistricting is hard. Is it fair to intentionally distort things to make majority minority districts? Is it actually distorting to have no majority minority districts? Is discrimination ok when used for what's believed to be positive, or is the act of discrimination always bad? There's also the fairly racist assumption that the only chance a minority candidate has is in a majority minority district.

There also the weird idiosyncrasy where a handful of states were justifiably labeled as extra racist and deserve extra scrutiny. There isn't a way to add or remove state from the list though. This has allowed states not on the list to become just as or more racist and not be subjected to scrutiny.