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[–] seaQueue 36 points 3 months ago (1 children)

We don't have a healthcare system in the US. We have wealthcare, and it only cares about the wealthy.

[–] PunnyName 10 points 3 months ago

Wealth and gun care, with health control. To paraphrase Newsom.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 3 months ago
[–] PunnyName 11 points 3 months ago

US healthcare is extortion.

[–] systemglitch 11 points 3 months ago (1 children)

You will never be a first world country without universal health care.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 3 months ago

We need to dump those terms, I'd say you'll never been a country that cares about its people without a universal healthcare. But really the first, second, third world names were just given by which side of 1 war the country was on. Which I'm pretty sure means every country founded after the mid 1940s is ordained third world by default? Or is there an actual list that the UN or someone has pieced together now?

[–] [email protected] 5 points 3 months ago (2 children)

Universal healthcare is much, much better than what the US has. Not only is it cheaper, but it's just a better system, even if you're relatively well off.

Having said that, I do wonder where they got the 5% and 20% figures from. The US system is very wasteful, but not 4x as bad as a Universal system.

https://www.commonwealthfund.org/publications/issue-briefs/2023/jan/us-health-care-global-perspective-2022

[–] [email protected] 1 points 3 months ago

UK here. I'm part time, I earned about £1k last month, and my National Insurance was £3.93, my income tax just under £10. 🤷🏽‍♀️

[–] [email protected] 5 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Would 5% suffice? I mean it's a nice claim, but in Germany you pay 14.6% (+ some percentage depending on your insurer) of your brutto salary and the employer pays the same. This is not far from.rhen20% tbf. I'm still for a universal healthcare for everyone

[–] [email protected] 6 points 3 months ago

Worth noting that the German system is horrifically inefficient due to being half-privatised and having dozens of layers of bureaucracy doing the exact same thing in dozens of insurance companies.

And it still has holes that people can fall through and end up uncovered. Germany is not a good example for universal healthcare. We've basically coasted on "eh, good enough" since Bismarck and only made minor adjustments instead of creating something like a Federal Health Service.

[–] Zdvarko 2 points 3 months ago

.....so like other developed countries then?