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Housing Bubble 2: Return of the Ugly

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[–] kat_angstrom 58 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Then they deserve to collapse, simple as that. And we need a new system to be built that doesn't thrive off such toil and misery

[–] somethingsnappy 4 points 1 month ago

And it's driving down wages. Kind of like regressives worry about immigrants doing.

[–] [email protected] 54 points 1 month ago (1 children)

1000008296

If a system can't exist without exploitation then it doesn't deserve to exist in the first place

[–] Lost_My_Mind 6 points 1 month ago

The United States today has announced it no longer exists.

.......no one noticed.

[–] [email protected] 25 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Basically trying to argue for slavery again....

Same fucking argument

[–] [email protected] 16 points 1 month ago

It is literally the same argument, word for word, that Texans (then part of Mexico) exclaimed when Mexico prohibited slavery. Thus they rebelled. Same argument the south cried, and they too rebelled. It's almost as if this is a recurring argument from slavers.

[–] [email protected] 19 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 children)

I've been to those towns in AZ. The world would lose nothing if they went away.

I don't see any similar outcry about places like Jerome that went to shit when their mines disappeared. Of course, in those cases, the only people hurt were the mine workers.

[–] spankmonkey 4 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Honestly the communities would probably improve if people had better paying jobs because they weren't competing against slave labor.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (2 children)

Thing is: There's nothing there

The only businesses I saw in those towns were a lunch counter, the prison, and a shop selling "souvenirs" made by prisoners. Without the prison, there goes 2/3 of your economy (well, probably a lot more than 2/3 unless you pull a serious lunch crowd). So now your town is just a lunch counter in the middle of the desert. If you're lucky, maybe there's a tourist attraction further down the highway bringing travelers who will keep your restaurant open.

[–] spankmonkey 4 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

Yeah, if it is just one or two businesses in the middle of nowhere without customers, it should fail.

That isn't a community.

[–] Lost_My_Mind 2 points 1 month ago

.....I mean......how was the lunch? Good?

[–] the_toast_is_gone 14 points 1 month ago

Quite frankly, maybe they should.

[–] Lost_My_Mind 10 points 1 month ago (2 children)

I seem to remember that same excuse being used in the 1800s in other states. We faught a war over this.

I mean......I don't PERSONALLY remember it......I wasn't born for a few more years......but I did read books about it.

[–] JustZ 4 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Every generation hears these lines.

"Unions will cause economic calamity that none shall survive."

"Overtime pay laws will cause economic calamity that none shall survive."

"Anti child-labor laws will cause economic calamity that none shall survive."

"Banning asbestos will cause economic calamity that none shall survive."

The people saying this stuff have no floor.

I think the guy is lying, personally; he's obviously attacking an idea he sees as a threat to his livelihood and power structure. There's no way prison labor is literally holding communities together in Arizona (someone from there help me out if I'm wrong).

This dude is employed by capital and capital will rotate this dude's position ad infinitum if he stops attacking anything less than chattel slavery, until some future iterant of this bootlicker builds the Matrix and inmates are harvested for their bioenergy and any choice halves of our symmetric organs; instead of prison tattoos, you leave with only one lung, and only once you've produced at least 75% of your sentenced wattage, you know, truth-in-sentencing reforms, gotta keep the lights on. Thanks to anyone who stuck that out to the end.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 month ago

Thanks to anyone who stuck that out to the end.

Meh, it was worth it.

[–] stoly 1 points 1 month ago

You forget that slavery is constitutional as a form of punishment. Until we change that, it’s slave labor the whole way down.

[–] Supervivens 9 points 1 month ago

Republicans: Buh Buh Buh illegal immigrants! Stealin all our jobs! Also: if we don’t sell our prisoners for cheap labor we won’t survive!

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Probably no one should live in Arizona anyway, given the course we are on climate wise.

[–] JustZ 3 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

Wasn't there just another article here about the police putting some dude on the pavement in Arizona and he got third degree burns on like half of his body?

People trip and fall and hit their head on things and get knocked out for a minute all the time. If that happens to you on a parking lot in Arizona, you are likely to be burned to death before you wake up.

[–] BeMoreCareful 5 points 1 month ago

The invisible free hand of the market has spoken then.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 month ago

US law allows slavery. Of course there are going to be American slaves.

[–] JustZ 3 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

This dude is lying, right?

Is this where Arizona is at politically and socially?

He just wants to keep his labor costs at null, right?