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Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelenskyy has said that Ukraine will be forced to fight against North Korean troops should they enter the conflict.

In an evening address posted on Telegram, Zelenskyy said North Korean forces could appear on the battlefield "any day now."

"Ukraine will be forced to actually fight against North Korea in Europe," he said, adding: "These are the conditions when the lack of partners' stronger decisions in support of Ukraine only encourages Putin to invest further in terror."

Zelenskyy also called on Western allies to ramp up pressure on Russia, saying he expected more support.

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[–] [email protected] 30 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

This should be NATO's in...

[–] FlyingSquid 19 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

NATO boots on the ground have not even been necessary so far.

I doubt a bunch of half-starved North Koreans who have never seen actual combat vs. the hardened Ukrainian military will require them.

[–] [email protected] 17 points 3 weeks ago

There's a lot to say about how NK troops are designed to be inept in the warzone, but as long as they dig trenches or carry ammo, they still put additional stress on ukrainian army. They keep endure more than what they asked for and don't seem to have means to end the war without being supported accordingly to a new threat that took place. Let's assume these koreans are warfare masterminds, everyone of them, instead of writing them off, and call it like it is: two countries and unknown amount of mercs are fighting against one country, and this country needs a blank check on mil spending for they take it themselves and hasn't yet called for official military intevention from any other state.

[–] FlyingSquid 18 points 3 weeks ago (4 children)

I thought they were already in combat. Didn't a bunch of them surrender recently?

[–] [email protected] 17 points 3 weeks ago

Watching your Russian translator get blown in half from a DJI drone with an RPG strapped to it tends to drive down the morale of new troups.

[–] [email protected] 16 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

The latest info on the 18 North Korean deserters is that they were stationed in a forest without any command or supplies for 4 days and left their post because the alternative was starvation. They were picked up by the Russians soon after.

[–] FlyingSquid 6 points 3 weeks ago

Thanks.

You'd think they'd be used to that alternative by now.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 3 weeks ago

I only read reports of desertion, not surrender.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)
[–] FlyingSquid 7 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

I can't find the info now, but I really thought someone posted an article a few days ago about it. Unless my bad memory is acting up again.

[–] jaybone 8 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

No, you are absolutely correct.

There was a story about this just one or two weeks ago.

Then within the last few days there was a new story they are training 3000 NK troops in Russia. Maybe they didn’t train the first batch enough lol.

[–] FlyingSquid 1 points 3 weeks ago

Thank you. The closer I get to 50, the less I trust my brain.

[–] peopleproblems 12 points 3 weeks ago (3 children)

Doesn't South Korea have a pretty big stake in this? Not like "stop guarding their border" stake, but "holy shit guys we have a way to really make them eat dirt."

[–] [email protected] 8 points 3 weeks ago

They're working on bypassing their law that prevents them from selling arms to countries at war because of this.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 3 weeks ago

Not really since Korean politics has made the entire Seoul area a de facto hostage for peace. Estimates place the death toll for Seoul alone at about 100,000 in the first 48 if hostilities between the North and South broke out due to the volume of artillery currently pointed at the city.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago)

It's all messy politics since the Ukrainian ambassador to Japan visited Yasukuni shrine (the one that's infamous for honoring WW2 war criminals) which made a huge controversy in South Korean media. There's still public support for Ukrainians plight, but also jaded cynicism since they see SK being diplomatically pressured into supporting Ukraine (which means risking more tensions with NK and China) while governments in Western Europe and US are taking their time.

[–] nixcamic 9 points 3 weeks ago

If Ukraine wasn't in total war with Russia right now imagine how easily they could wipe the floor with NK lol.

[–] IndustryStandard 1 points 3 weeks ago

North Korea already has more sanctions than Russia. With little to lose they are eager to join for a small bid.