US abolitionist movement
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Did someone legitimately downvote the abolishment movement??? 
Dang didn’t know Lemmygrad was pro-slavery /s
I blame Wisconcom
Wisconcom?
New Florida education policy about slavery already making waves
Probably one of those wandering libs.
Or mistook it for the anti-alcohol one. I know I did, until I read your comment
If I remember right prohibition was actually pretty based. Alcohol was a tool of oppression whether in sedating factory proletarians or getting indigenous people drunk to make it easier to steal their land. ~~Manhattan for example means “the place where we all became intoxicated.”~~
Source I vaguely remember:
Yeah, but prohibition was absolute garbage since everyone was STILL drunk, just now the alcohol supply was owned by the Mob.
Per one journalist’s study, it took a maximum of 10 minutes for a “tourist” “out of towner” in any city in the US to find alcohol. The record was a 30 seconds when the cab driver of one city immediately pulled out beer from a compartment in the cab when asked where to get alcohol.
Sure, alcohol wasn’t eliminated, but it was progress. Back before prohibition people drank alcohol like water, and the fact that most don’t anymore is good (not that there aren’t widespread substance abuse problems of other types). I suggest you listen to the Gastropod episode.
I have before, but the reduction in alcohol drinking primarily came from the restriction, rationing, and lack of ingredients during WW1 and WW2 as opposed to Prohibition. It had a worse inverse effect, all it did was force drinking underground and made it a taboo topic to discuss.
Prohibition increased alcohol stockpiling which allowed most people to “ride out” the initial wave, and by the time many stockpiles ran dry, the mob and local moonshiners has established a strong enough network to maintain supply.
Funnily enough, one bar stockpiled so much alcohol prior to prohibition, that they were able to legally sell and advertise their alcohol for the entire prohibition since it was legal to sell Pre-Prohibiton alcohol.
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Doesn't Manhattan mean "The place where we get our bows from" in Munsee? I don't know if your meaning is correct
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Same with coca in the Latin American gold mines in the 16th and 17th centuries
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maybe we could be very very generous and assume someone downvoted it for the slight typo
it was probably some chud though
Well, there were some problematic abolitionists. Some only wanted slavery gone because they were scared if there were too many slaves they would rise up and threaten the whole settler project.
True, but those are usually left in the dustbin of the movement.
When you think of abolishonist, you think of Fredrick Douglass, John Brown, William Garrison, and Harriet Tubman, etc.
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Also forgot the one that virtually all of us support: the Palestine liberation movement. Much more people have heard of it and thus support it.
Complete, uncritical support to the people of Palestine against the Zionist regime.
Gaddafi and Irish republicanism.
I have strong but critical support for the Scientist Rebellion, which is campaigning through civil disobedience for serious action against climate change and treating it like the existential threat it is. They're definitely getting attention and traction, and it's pissing off the Western powers beautifully.
Also, Libre software and hardware and the abolishment of copyright and patents in general.
Same here with libre software and hardware and other technological freedom struggles. Becoming politically conscious in the technology sector was the spark (especially when Trump repealed net neutrality) that led me to Marxism-Leninism today.
Just came back from a holiday there: Basque independence movement. The Basque have their own language, culture, socio-economic vision so I see no reason why I shouldn't support them wanting to become independent from Spain and France.
Just curious, what are your thoughts on Catalonia independence?
I'm not who you are replying to, but here's a fun fact: years ago I did some research on the International Brigades that required pulling out documents from the SOVDOC.
One of these was the record of a political discussion in 1936-37 between members of a communist unit that included Catalonian independentists, about the question of self-determination for Spain's various nationalities. The meeting ended with a recommendation of Stalin's Marxism and the National Question as a read for the unit's members and the decision that the text's conclusions was the way of thought to follow.
To this day, I still recommend that one text to anyone who wishes to know how to proceed ideologically in regards to any movement for national independence, including Catalonia's.
Thanks for the reading recommendation -- I was just wondering if there's some good theory on essentially what degree of local control is best/what type of independence or autonomy should be supported.
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However, they are too small to do anything big like overthrowing the Mexican government. They would be crushed quickly.
I do not think the EZLN has the wish to do so anyway. Staying relatively under the radar is the main reason why they have survived until now like they have.
Gotta be all Palestinian liberation movements for me
Lula's worker's party in Brazil, they've done incredible work helping the most impoverished people of the country, and are the most progressive in South America in my book.
As a Brazilian organized communist,
Just no. Especially his latest moves. In fact last night he just pushed a provisional measure (a law that can take effect now, go to congress later) to legalize cassinos and other gambling establishments. Effective immediately too
He's not done any actual reforms, just means tested welfare programs. In fact he privatized a bunch of stuff in his first tenure. He also signed the drug laws that shot incarceration rates sky high (in fact a comrade was arrested for possesing weed and not released for over a year despite not being sentenced).
His job is making things seem "not all that bad" and keeping the forces of reaction well fed.
I'm not mad at you for not knowing, but as a Brazilian Communist I am extremely angry at the fact they misled you
Edit: I can go on and on and if y'all actually want me to. Don't "support" this enemy of our class in front of me again.
And yes, he's better than the "electorally viable" alternatives, but we have second rounds for election so we vote communist!
is he at least actually an anti imperialist? that's been my impression anyways
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Let this comment be your excuse to go on and on about this
even more than the PSUV? Also, what's the beef between the PSUV and the PCV about?
Something Something, Socdem PSUV gives an inch to the U.S, and the PCV is mad at that... https://www.blackagendareport.com/fight-between-psuv-and-pcv-unnecessary-untimely-and-alien
The PSUV does unfortunately take influence from Trotsky, but its explained they take more influence from Venezuelan culture and history, and they limit their use of violence if they deem it unecessary.
I've also spent an hour reading PCV's accusations and their history, and I'm extremely skeptical of them. They seem to be annoying contrarian naive tools for U.S. imperialism.
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It needs to be said that 1916 Ireland and the Starry Plough represented what Lenin called “The First Red Army in Europe”
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I'm not well-informed enough on any particular organization to say I "strongly support" them, but I'm for any anti-colonial struggle
I hope I don't come off as stupid and naive, but I support the antiwork/workreform movements on Reddit. Yes, most of them are American redditor neoliberal reactionaries, however as a whole I think they have some small material effect on destabilizing the system. America is like a collapsing building with a few crumbly pillars holding the whole thing up and antiwork/workreform types are at least wacking at those pillars and I feel like a ton of them are voicing M and ML ideals without knowing it. I think a ton of them could eventually be brought to the left with some guidance.
Lukashenko's administration is pretty good imo, even though it's not a party or organization.
From a Belarussian person, Lukashenko's administration has been a disaster for the people of Belarus.
His only saving grace is preventing Belarus from becoming a US vassal state like Ukraine or Poland. Other then that I'm very certain that a chimpanzee could run Belarus better then Lukashenko.
He's basically a if you tried to copy Kim Ill Sung and horrifically failed and copied the inverse of all of Kim’s traits. Lukashenko is extremely reactionary, capitalist, and just a terrible leader.
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The IRA for one.
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