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What are some non-ML movements (past and present) that you guys strongly support? (lemmygrad.ml)
submitted 1 year ago by [email protected] to c/[email protected]
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Me personally, I find the EZLN fascinating. (if there is anything bad about them, let me know because I do not know much bad things about them)

They are one of the few movements that anarchists praise that I actually think are based, although the Zapatistas have told westerners to stop calling them anarchists, communists, or anything else.

They also fight against drug cartels and seem to have created one of the most stable territories in the Chiapas region.

However, they are too small to do anything big like overthrowing the Mexican government. They would be crushed quickly.

Give me your thoughts on the EZLN and/or, as the title suggests, any non-ML movements that you support.

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[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago (3 children)

even more than the PSUV? Also, what's the beef between the PSUV and the PCV about?

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Something Something, Socdem PSUV gives an inch to the U.S, and the PCV is mad at that... https://www.blackagendareport.com/fight-between-psuv-and-pcv-unnecessary-untimely-and-alien

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago

The PSUV does unfortunately take influence from Trotsky, but its explained they take more influence from Venezuelan culture and history, and they limit their use of violence if they deem it unecessary.

I've also spent an hour reading PCV's accusations and their history, and I'm extremely skeptical of them. They seem to be annoying contrarian naive tools for U.S. imperialism.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

PSUV is not a force for socialism, and as such they seek to destroy those who actually fight for it. In fact the PSUV is actively trying to dismantle the PCV https://pcb.org.br/portal2/30320

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I'm extremely skeptical of the PCV's accusations. After doing like an hour's worth of reading, they seem to likely be a lapdog and trojan horse for CIA regime change, while they accuse the PSUV of being traitors despite the PSUV having little options.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

i think i read an article on UZ about the DKP siding with the PCV

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Do you have a link?

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

I am skeptical of the PSUV's version of events as well as the CPV's, but the CPV doesn't present any concrete solutions to Venezuela's problems. Despite their rhetoric and that they claim the government is unfairly targeting them, they play right into the hands of the imperialists that wanted to sanction, slander, balkanize and invade Venezuela. They call an end to sanctions yet are ambivalent about a potential overthrow of Maduro and his cabinet, but they provide no concrete plan for addressing Venezuela's precarious economic sabotage or fighting against the cartels and CIA agents or multinational billion-dollar corporations that all have a stranglehold on the Bolivarian republic, beyond just concepts and ideas, that will occur if the PSUV is dismantled.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

The PSUV literally wants to either outright prohibit or coopt the PCV. Can't believe people here are defending the PSUV. https://youtu.be/BMpyyxo6gMA