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So If you don't know about the site. It was a site to get free text books and reading material. Essentially a library archive where any person could get access to any book that was put on the internet for free(novels, poems, short stories, textbooks, etc...) However the U.S. gov shut the site down under two U.S. fed laws. U.S. Code 18 subsection 981(b) (which is the first U.S. code claimed) states:

"Any property, real or personal, within the jurisdiction of the United States, constituting, derived from, or traceable to, any proceeds obtained directly or indirectly from an offense against a foreign nation, or any property used to facilitate such an offense, if the offense— (i)involves trafficking in nuclear, chemical, biological, or radiological weapons technology or material, or the manufacture, importation, sale, or distribution of a controlled substance (as that term is defined for purposes of the Controlled Substances Act), or any other conduct described in section 1956(c)(7)(B); (ii)would be punishable within the jurisdiction of the foreign nation by death or imprisonment for a term exceeding 1 year; and (iii)would be punishable under the laws of the United States by imprisonment for a term exceeding 1 year, if the act or activity constituting the offense had occurred within the jurisdiction of the United States."

Keep in mind the site was for textbooks. If someone uploaded sensitive material on a privately owned site, then they themselves have a breach that they are taking out on private citizens.

The second subsection that's claimed is U.S. Code 21 subsection 853(f) which states:

"The Government may request the issuance of a warrant authorizing the seizure of property subject to forfeiture under this section in the same manner as provided for a search warrant. If the court determines that there is probable cause to believe that the property to be seized would, in the event of conviction, be subject to forfeiture and that an order under subsection (e) may not be sufficient to assure the availability of the property for forfeiture, the court shall issue a warrant authorizing the seizure of such property.'

So what I'm interpreting from all of this is the U.S. government sees free knowledge as a danger because they literally shut this site down under the guise of a national threat. And then if you read the second U.S. code they claim, it essentially says that they can take whatever they want as long as they want it bad enough. So free knowledge is terrorism and those who give free knowledge are subject to forfeiture?

I'm not without fault however, so if there is someone who can interpret this in a barney style way that way I could understand it better, please feel free

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[–] [email protected] 99 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (3 children)

This was just one of the front end links for ZLibrary, and it’s so distributed that it’s not difficult to get around with other links. This has been going on for a bit with the US Government seizing its front end links.

Other sites are serving similar purpose now and if you’re interested they are at the http://lemmy.dbzer0.com/c/piracy community.

[–] [email protected] 41 points 1 year ago

Sounds similar to the whack-a-mole they play with TPB

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Plus, you really can't beat IRC, at least for fiction, but it has a good selection of non-fiction.

[–] evulhotdog 7 points 1 year ago (1 children)

What specific channels or servers?

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

If you search 'reddit IRC ebooks' you'll find a very good guide on how to do it.

[–] MoonshineDegreaser 4 points 1 year ago

Thanks. I'll take a look

[–] [email protected] 52 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Not familiar with the site, but it sounds like some one uploaded something directly related either to WMDs or the manufacture of drugs. Otherwise I suspect they would have used the provisions related to copyright infringement.

Knowledge related to both are publicly available, and the tech is simple enough that even a southern high schooler could build something truely nasty, but if it is too directly related…. Well, the people that do the day to day work of the government aren’t completely stupid. The best they can do, though, is try to keep the knowledge out of sight, out of mind.

[–] mook71 22 points 1 year ago

Wait, this happened like 4-6 months ago. Zlib is still alive and well, they just send out individualized links per user id when you search something.

[–] TwoGems 14 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)
[–] Eric_andre311 11 points 1 year ago (3 children)

Are there any other sites like this?

[–] jeffw 9 points 1 year ago
[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 year ago
[–] dingus 11 points 1 year ago

If you're looking for a free textbook alternative, check out Library Genesis at libgen.rs. It was an absolute lifesaver for me when I was in school.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Iirc that was also related to zlib which got bonked somewhat recently.

[–] MoonshineDegreaser 1 points 1 year ago

I've had a few people say the same thing, so you're probably recalling it correctly

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