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[–] jordanlund 11 points 3 months ago (1 children)

He's not wrong, but it would take an amendment to do it as the EC is baked into the Constitution and we're too divided to get an amendment passed.

See also:

Abortion rights, gun rights, Supreme Court reform, term limits.

[–] derekabutton 9 points 3 months ago (1 children)
[–] jordanlund 2 points 3 months ago (1 children)

That still doesn't get rid of it, it uses it and re-directs it.

[–] derekabutton 2 points 3 months ago

Right. But then we don't have to consider it. It will be ultimately ineffective and purely administrative.

[–] UnderpantsWeevil 10 points 3 months ago (1 children)

While the number of states who’ve backed such proposals is growing, the major change would require congressional approval, which is unlikely to happen anytime soon.

:-/

I remember when Democrats talked about DC Statehood back in 2009. Over half a million Americans effectively disenfranchised, but all Dems in the House and Senate could think to do was table the issue. Then in 2021 they had another shot and... tabled the issue.

Now we've got Walz and Newsome talking about a national popular vote. There's a very good chance they'll take the House back in 2025. Wonder what they'll do next?

[–] acosmichippo 5 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (1 children)

isn’t there an alliance of states who agree to elect their votes to the majority winner? if those states get up to 271(?) or whatever the electoral college magic number is, congress doesn’t matter.

edit: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/National_Popular_Vote_Interstate_Compact

[–] UnderpantsWeevil 2 points 3 months ago

isn’t there an alliance of states who agree to elect their votes to the majority winner?

There is, but the legality of this compact is still in the hands of the SCOTUS. And the math problem is the same. You'd need a majority of EC votes, when states with that majority are controlled by Republican governors and legislators. If you look at the list, it's just a litany of states that already reliably vote Dem.

Talk to me when Michigan, Pennsylvania, Wisconsin, and Nevada join. Even then, I guarantee this gets challenged and thrown out in a 6-3 SCOTUS decision.

[–] HessiaNerd 4 points 3 months ago (1 children)
[–] jordanlund 0 points 3 months ago (1 children)

That still doesn't get rid of it, all that does is require EC votes in those states go to the national popular vote winner.

[–] acosmichippo 4 points 3 months ago

if enough states commit to it, that effectively gets rid of EC.

[–] werefreeatlast -2 points 3 months ago

I agree. As an example, why don't you vote for or against me turning off my night lights do I can go to sleep. Go ahead and vote now. Let me send you ads to your phone and TV and on posters glued to your car. Ok ready? I'm representing you in the action of voting. No worries I'll vote exactly as you all voted. After I either choose to get off my ass and turn off the light, I'll go ahead and go to sleep 💤😴. Good night everyone!