this post was submitted on 07 Oct 2024
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Ye Power Trippin' Bastards

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This is a community in the spirit of "Am I The Asshole" where people can post their own bans from lemmy or reddit or whatever and get some feedback from others whether the ban was justified or not.

Sometimes one just wants to be able to challenge the arguments some mod made and this could be the place for that.

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Also outs your report publicly, nice !

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[–] [email protected] 166 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (9 children)

And Lemmy has an issue with it's backend implementation which sometimes causes multiple copies of a comment being posted without the posters knowledge.

It then gets flagged as spam and the poster banned. Ask me how I know.

[–] affiliate 32 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 31 points 2 months ago

I searched for the issue when it happened to me and saw a bug report for it with the Lemmy devs confirming.

[–] Klear 28 points 2 months ago

how do you know?

[–] Klear 26 points 2 months ago

how do you know?

[–] idunnololz 26 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (9 children)

As someone who implement a Lemmy client it might be a client side problem. If the server is struggling you will time out when sending the comment. If the client side has any sort of retry logic it will send the comment again. This can cause the comment to be posted multiple times. There might be a bug on the server as well but I know for sure it can be caused by the client.

[–] [email protected] 24 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (2 children)

It's what you are describing, and it's not a client problem. It's impossible for a client to solve. You can't tell whether a timed out request succeeded or not.

Idempotent network requests are a standard feature of many APIs - sending the same request multiple times should result in only one action being performed, but Lemmy doesn't support them yet.

So yes, it's "caused" by retries, but the bug is that the backend doesn't properly support retries. Clients don't do anything wrong.

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[–] Klear 24 points 2 months ago

how do you know?

[–] [email protected] 12 points 2 months ago (1 children)

I did have this happen a few times early on, about a year ago, but haven’t seen it in a while. I’m hoping they fixed some of those bugs.

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[–] ensignboilmer 54 points 2 months ago (2 children)

CLM - sounds like @[email protected] needs to understand the tools a bit more given how active they are.

[–] [email protected] 34 points 2 months ago (7 children)

FlyingSquid needs to be booted from everything they mod.

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[–] MehBlah 18 points 2 months ago (2 children)

Turns out I've blocked this user already. Are they a mod?

[–] ensignboilmer 31 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Apparently so? They’re terminally online so it’s disappointing they don’t understand Lemmy better. Had it been almost any other user I wouldn’t have recognized the name at all.

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[–] BestTestInTheWest 53 points 2 months ago (6 children)

Is that person a mod? I blocked them and my lemmy experience has been way better.

[–] waz 14 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Same. Literally the only person I've blocked. I also made sure to leave every community they mod. Certainly a vibe I could do without.

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[–] [email protected] 50 points 2 months ago

PTB, (or maybe just "clueless bastard"?): Ye publicly outing your report because they don't understand lemmy is pretty bad.

[–] [email protected] 46 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

PTB, publicly outing reports and trying to intimidate them is not cool, if you want to discuss someone's reports with them, do it in their DMs.

Also here's a tip for any admin or mod wishing to discuss the report with someone. Quote the report you're addressing. I can't see my own reports, so if an admin or mod wanted to discuss the last reports I made, it's possible I would have to think really hard to remember what he was talking about, or just flat out not remember. Because I do make a lot of reports, unfortunately, as there is a lot of problematic content and users out there.

Edit: I did make an issue in the Lemmy GitHub requesting this feature, so if you agree that this could be useful I suggest you go express the desire for such a feature over there. I included being able to edit and delete reports, but if that's too much at least the ability to read my own reports I've sent.

Example of a DM that a Mod or admin could use to address reports with someone

Text from report

(can include multiple reports here with gaps between them as needed)

[content of their message addressing the report to the user]

[–] Anticorp 43 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (3 children)

Silence! You dare question a mod of my abilities? Banned!

[–] Old_Yharnam 24 points 2 months ago

You jest, but many mods do actually have this mindset. It’s unreal

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[–] lulztard 34 points 2 months ago (6 children)

In my experience, mods in general have gotten extremely bad. Lemmy, reddit, basically all social media is being moderated without the least amount of professionality, standard or competency.

[–] lath 67 points 2 months ago (2 children)

That's because professionality, standard and competency take time to foster and cost a lot to maintain.

[–] [email protected] 50 points 2 months ago (1 children)

And usually get paid nothing.

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[–] Anticorp 37 points 2 months ago (7 children)

Are we supposed to be elite professionals on our salaries of $0.00?

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[–] [email protected] 17 points 2 months ago (13 children)

The good thing is that on the fediverse, you can improve this situation. Either go to an instance that keeps a watchful eye on power tripping mods and ensure mods are fair, or start your own instance to become that.

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[–] finitebanjo 22 points 2 months ago (2 children)

Squid can be a little quirky like that sometimes.

[–] waz 25 points 2 months ago

Sometimes? They are the only person I have ever blocked in all of my years on both reddit or lemmy. Such an odd combination of self importance, rage, entitlement and ego.

I'd almost forgotten about them until they showed up in a screenshot for being exactly how I remember.

[–] [email protected] 13 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

quirky

*holds up ban spork*

[–] Linkerbaan 18 points 2 months ago (4 children)

FlyingSquid flaunts his mod powers and bans users which don't submit to his Zionist world views by making shit up.

Lemmy.World is the most Reddit of Lemmies.

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[–] satans_methpipe 16 points 2 months ago

I'm so glad I finally made an account so I can block that particular reddit-type user. Might have to bounce instances based on how this goes.

[–] Godric 15 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Why is it whenever I notice a mod, or see anyone complain about a mod, it's always the exact same mod?

Are all Lemmy mods chill except this singular prickly tranch?

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[–] gofsckyourself 14 points 2 months ago (1 children)
[–] saroh 22 points 2 months ago

No response :x

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