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[–] [email protected] 16 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Hrm, then it sounds like it wasn't nearly as "stealthy" as they hoped...

[–] [email protected] 9 points 2 months ago (1 children)

No, you see, this is just how amazing Russian AA missiles are!

[–] [email protected] 16 points 2 months ago (2 children)

Aren't engine exhausts like that highly counterproductive for stealth aircraft? Are they still stuck with their same engine they used on their fighter jets that also caused them to have stealth issues?

[–] [email protected] 13 points 2 months ago (1 children)

It's immensely noticeable on radar. That giant round engine is going to stick out like a sore thumb on radar and IR.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 months ago
[–] [email protected] 12 points 2 months ago

There was one built with a flat nozzle in 2021, so uh, guess this was the first one of the two

[–] [email protected] 11 points 2 months ago

You see Ivan, it was not visible on our radars, and as you know, we don't have the technology to not be on the radar. Thus, it must've been the enemy!

[–] ladicius 10 points 2 months ago (3 children)

Maybe that was the point? They checked how easy it was to be detected by an anti aircraft missile?

[–] T00l_shed 15 points 2 months ago (3 children)
[–] ladicius 6 points 2 months ago

Those orcs waste so many resources on dumb stuff, so many... It somehow became their signature move in the 21st century.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 2 months ago (1 children)

I remember reading about the design of the F14 Tomcat. In one of the flight tests, the fighter was downed by a missile the pilot had fired himself. The point is shit happens.

[–] sartalon 7 points 2 months ago (1 children)

I think you might be conflating with this story.

The F-14 was testing the missile launch system, and the engineers failed to consider all the factors of the test missile and the system, causing it to not successfully clear the aircraft on launch, damaging the aircraft. Not really shooting itself down, or a failure of the F-14 design.

But to your real point, yeah, shit happens.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Thank you. I’m from before the internet and this story I read in those magazine collections that we would buy and glue them together in books. This one is from around 1990 and either was badly told or my mind imagined something different.

[–] sartalon 3 points 2 months ago

I'm almost 50, and this hits hard. So many things from my youth have blended together. Almost nothing from before I was 10 now.

That is one thing I do like about the phone in my pocket. I have a constant stream of photos now, of mine and my family's life. It's not just a random photo of a birthday here or there that survives, but an almost living journal.

Sorry, don't mean to be down, but back to the original story...

I actually didn't remember about the F-14 and the Sparrow missile and thought you were just thinking of the aircraft that ran into its own bullets. I wrote my reply that way and thought, maybe I should actually do some research because maybe I don't have the best memory, lol.

So you helped me remember too.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Why would they do that over Ukraine?

[–] modeler 4 points 2 months ago

If the Russian missile fails, it will automatically be tested against western radars and anti-aircraft missiles.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 2 months ago

I suspect they shot it down because they lost control and it was heading towards Ukrainian airspace

[–] werefreeatlast 7 points 2 months ago

The one and only! The mighty! Su-70!

Oh shit where is it?

This is a carjack!

No actually this is a Su-70 and my name is not Jack?