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[–] [email protected] 14 points 1 hour ago

This is just a huge fuck you to their community.

[–] theherk 5 points 54 minutes ago (1 children)

I feel like I’m reading a different article than everyone else. The comments made me think the article would be adding advertisements, but it seems to be trying to find a way forward to facilitate advertisements while maintaining privacy.

Without technical details I’m not sure that’s a bad thing. I know lemmy is largely “Mozilla bad”, but I’m just not sure the comments are in line with the proposal.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 42 minutes ago* (last edited 41 minutes ago) (1 children)

I originally was one of the "FUCK FIREFOX IS FUCKED" people. However, after taking a deep breath and actually reading, yes, you are correct. There is no indication that they're blocking adblockers or taking away firefox customization. I think they're both looking for alternative revenue streams and trying to make the advertising business less intrusive. That being said, their communication is absolute dogshit and they deserve a lot of the shit they get. But I am not yet panicking. Firefox remains the best choice for blocking ads.

[–] Buddahriffic 1 points 11 minutes ago

The problem for me is that I'm tired of ads at all, so while I do think that having an ad system that is less abusive than the current one is a step in the right direction, I still don't want to see any unsolicited ads and this feels like the initial steps to try to make it more palatable to eventually try to force users to accept ads back into their lives.

[–] AnitaAmandaHuginskis 4 points 58 minutes ago

Hard fork incoming in 3... 2... 1....

[–] LifeOfChance 18 points 3 hours ago

The only ones who will embrace it are the advertisers....

[–] ramblingsteve 27 points 4 hours ago (3 children)

I honestly never expected the final death blow for Firefox to come from Mozilla.

[–] barnaclebutt 8 points 2 hours ago

Is this a response to the fact that they may not get paid for having Google as their default search engine? If so, I worry about a bunch of Linux distributions. It's ironic that a company's toxic virtual monopoly was paying for so much open software.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 hour ago* (last edited 1 hour ago)

Eh, they've been speedrunning this for years, this is just the most efficient way to get to the end goal of complete ruin.

I have a few alternative ideas, but I honestly don't think they're interested in hearing them.

[–] PlantDadManGuy 3 points 3 hours ago (2 children)

Maybe they've been infiltrated by bad actors from Google, parading around as pro-privacy frauds.

[–] ramblingsteve 5 points 3 hours ago

I hope so. I hope there could be a future where Mozilla is purged of these people and returned to being just a browser. Not everything has to be a "platform" with a business model for MBA's to feast on.

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[–] [email protected] 38 points 5 hours ago* (last edited 5 hours ago) (1 children)

Oh you mean one of the only two reasons I use this fucking thing? Ad blocking and privacy?

You're shitting on both. That's like... Idk, Craftsman making tools out of plastic and removing the lifetime warranty... Wtf do I even need you for then?

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 hour ago

Eh, I care about a third: browser engine diversity. If they drop Gecko, I'm out, there's literally nothing left to keep me here.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 3 hours ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 9 points 2 hours ago* (last edited 2 hours ago) (1 children)

Thanks but

We are targeting a first Alpha release for early adopters in 2026.

We need an alternative before that

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 hour ago

Maybe this pushes the development a little bit. Would be a good opportunity to ask for funding and other means of help.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 4 hours ago

Because of propaganda, people find it easier to imagine the end of the world before the end of capitalism. Just the same, theres lots of commenters here that could imagine the end of the internet before they imagine the end of advertising on the internet.

[–] [email protected] 49 points 9 hours ago* (last edited 9 hours ago) (8 children)

And, for the foreseeable future at least, advertising is a key commercial engine of the internet, and the most efficient way to ensure the majority of content remains free and accessible to as many people as possible.

I'm afraid they aren't wrong. The majority of people aren't going to pay for access to random blogs etc. So we'd end up with only the big players having usable sites.

People kick off about ads but rarely suggest an alternative to funding the internet.

Back in the day ads were targeted based on the website's target audience not the user's personal data. It works fine but is less effective. Don't see why they couldn't go that way.

[–] [email protected] 23 points 7 hours ago* (last edited 7 hours ago)

You posted this on Lemmy.

[–] [email protected] 20 points 7 hours ago (4 children)

I don't believe a web browser should be designed specifically for one business model, period.

There are plenty of free sites. Truly free, with no ads.

There are plenty of paid sites, supported by subscribers.

There are plenty of sites funded by educational institutions, nonprofits, or similar.

There used to be plenty of sites that were supported by non-invasive ads.

I don't give a damn if everyone uses Facebook and Google. That doesn't mean we need to cater to their business model at the technical level.

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