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It was just a month ago that Brooke Hiers left the state-issued emergency trailer where her family had lived since Hurricane Idalia slammed into her Gulf Coast fishing village of Horseshoe Beach in August 2023.

Hiers and her husband Clint were still finishing the electrical work in the home they painstakingly rebuilt themselves, wiping out Clint’s savings to do so. They never will finish that wiring job.

Hurricane Helene blew their newly renovated home off its four foot-high pilings, sending it floating into the neighbor’s yard next door.

For the third time in 13 months, this windswept stretch of Florida’s Big Bend took a direct hit from a hurricane — a one-two-three punch to a 50-mile (80-kilometer) sliver of the state’s more than 8,400 miles (13,500 kilometers) of coastline, first by Idalia, then Category 1 Hurricane Debby in August 2024 and now Helene.

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[–] kescusay 41 points 2 months ago (3 children)

They should not. As the climate continues to change, Florida is going to continue to be the recipient of yearly mega-storms that destroy towns over and over.

I am fully convinced that large chunks of Florida are technically no longer habitable, and trying to live there anymore is a mistake.

[–] orclev 7 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Middle of the state is probably fine, but anything within about 15 miles of the coast should be avoided. Also anywhere within a mile of a major river or lake.

[–] kescusay 4 points 2 months ago

Sadly, it's the coastal areas that are the nicest, while the middle of the state is unpleasantly humid much of the year. The last time I was in Florida, I spent considerable time in Orlando, and hated every minute of it.

There's also the issue of seawater pollution in their drinking water. It's going to keep getting worse.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

Agree, that or homes there will need to become sealable concrete bunkers that can be abandoned when needed without worry.

Unrealistic expense, and undesirable lifestyle

[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 months ago

They are habitable with the correct building codes. Northern Florida historically got very few hurricanes so the buildings are not hurricane resistant. The fact that their house floated away is the red flag that the home could never survive a hurricane. Houses in South Florida are concrete block exteriors. In the Keys you can't have any living space at all on the first floor too.

It does make it much more expensive to build but I see that rule becoming necessary in all coastal areas.

The extreme damage will be when hurricanes start making regular landfall in even less historically hurricane prone areas (see Western NC getting hit by the same storm at a fraction of the strength it hit Florida with). We already had hurricane Sandy fuck up NJ. It won't be pretty when a similar storm hits Philly, NYC, DC, etc.

[–] [email protected] 23 points 2 months ago

Climate change deniers should have to stay. Everyone else should probably get assistance moving somewhere else.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 2 months ago (3 children)

Odds are if they rebuild yet again in the same place they won't be able to get insurance. Or if they can, it'll cost more than their mortgage payments.

[–] orclev 9 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Insurance rates in Florida are already beyond what most people can afford. They've risen like 10x over the last decade. Most insurance companies aren't even doing business in the state anymore.

[–] kescusay 15 points 2 months ago

That's what I try to point out to climate change deniers. Insurance companies live or die based on risk, so they have to be extraordinarily hard-nosed realists about it. They literally can't afford to pretend the climate isn't changing.

[–] grue 4 points 2 months ago

From the article, it sounds like the first couple mentioned in the article already weren't able to get insurance this time.

Hiers and her husband Clint were still finishing the electrical work in the home they painstakingly rebuilt themselves, wiping out Clint’s savings to do so. They never will finish that wiring job.

Hurricane Helene blew their newly renovated home off its four foot-high pilings, sending it floating into the neighbor’s yard next door.

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The Hiers, like many others here, can’t afford homeowner’s insurance on their flood-prone houses, even if it was available. Residents who have watched their life savings get washed away multiple times are left with few choices...

[–] [email protected] 4 points 2 months ago

It's also a huge waste of federal resources paying to help rebuild in these places which are no longer habitable.

[–] kemsat 6 points 2 months ago

Stupid is as stupid does. Move to Arizona or something, if you need it to be hot.