this post was submitted on 30 Sep 2024
246 points (99.2% liked)

politics

18961 readers
3309 users here now

Welcome to the discussion of US Politics!

Rules:

  1. Post only links to articles, Title must fairly describe link contents. If your title differs from the site’s, it should only be to add context or be more descriptive. Do not post entire articles in the body or in the comments.
  2. Articles must be relevant to politics. Links must be to quality and original content. Articles should be worth reading. Clickbait, stub articles, and rehosted or stolen content are not allowed. Check your source for Reliability and Bias here.
  3. Be civil, No violations of TOS. It’s OK to say the subject of an article is behaving like a (pejorative, pejorative). It’s NOT OK to say another USER is (pejorative). Strong language is fine, just not directed at other members. Engage in good-faith and with respect! This includes accusing another user of being a bot or paid actor. Trolling is uncivil and is grounds for removal and/or a community ban.
  4. No memes, trolling, or low-effort comments. Reposts, misinformation, off-topic, trolling, or offensive.
  5. Vote based on comment quality, not agreement. This community aims to foster discussion; please reward people for putting effort into articulating their viewpoint, even if you disagree with it.
  6. No hate speech, slurs, celebrating death, advocating violence, or abusive language. This will result in a ban. Usernames containing racist, or inappropriate slurs will be banned without warning

We ask that the users report any comment or post that violate the rules, to use critical thinking when reading, posting or commenting. Users that post off-topic spam, advocate violence, have multiple comments or posts removed, weaponize reports or violate the code of conduct will be banned.

All posts and comments will be reviewed on a case-by-case basis. This means that some content that violates the rules may be allowed, while other content that does not violate the rules may be removed. The moderators retain the right to remove any content and ban users.

That's all the rules!

Civic Links

Register To Vote

Citizenship Resource Center

Congressional Awards Program

Federal Government Agencies

Library of Congress Legislative Resources

The White House

U.S. House of Representatives

U.S. Senate

Partnered Communities:

News

World News

Business News

Political Discussion

Ask Politics

Military News

Global Politics

Moderate Politics

Progressive Politics

UK Politics

Canadian Politics

Australian Politics

New Zealand Politics

founded 1 year ago
MODERATORS
all 18 comments
sorted by: hot top controversial new old
[–] [email protected] 100 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Media critics have accused them [CBS] of cowing to MAGA Republicans.

And those critics are entirely correct. This is a spineless, utterly irresponsible decision.

As Mother Jones CEO Monika Bauerlein wrote in 2019, “Journalists can’t just dispassionately chronicle two equally valid ‘sides.’ A free press needs (and is needed by) lowercase-d democracy. We can’t exist without it.”

I agree completely, and CBS is failing the public.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 day ago

Democracy doesn't need a lower case d, nor does republicanism, only calling yourself a radical republican, but that's modern journalism for you.

[–] [email protected] 61 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

It makes sense once you consider Paramount is in limbo until a merger with Skydance, run by David Ellison, the son of right-wing billionaire Larry Ellison.

David Ellison may be more liberal and has apparently donated to democratic candidates more often than republicans. But you can imagine the direction coming down from high-up CBS positions to not engage in anything that may look partisan.

it's just a shame that the right has convinced anyone that "verifiable reality" is partisan.

[–] [email protected] 18 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

All that these billionaire unwashed assholes care about are their tax cuts.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 day ago

You know how for years the billionaires have said if the tax environment is too onerous they will leave? Well now’s the time for them to get taxed or go. Like, what does a country really want billionaires for anymore?

[–] [email protected] 17 points 1 day ago

If CBS is truly intransigent on this point, Walz should use it as an opportunity to absolutely eviscerate the moderators and CBS in general for not doing their jobs. Because fact checking lies in debates is very much their job, and they’d be demonstrably negligent in their public duty as journalists if they refuse to do so.

[–] [email protected] 35 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

🎵They’re eating the dogs

They’re eating the cats

They’re eating the pets of the people who live there🎵

CBS: “Yup”

[–] [email protected] 26 points 1 day ago
[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 day ago

Well at least Walz can be prepared. It would have been worse if they said there would be fact checking, and then just didn't do it, or dropped the ball on it

[–] wake_up 6 points 1 day ago

It's disappointing that CBS moderators won't fact-check the VP debate. Accurate info is kind of important in debates, right? I mean, could you imagine sports without referees? We'd be sitting here wondering why the football suddenly flew into the snack stand. Sure, politicians can go unchecked for a bit, like when your dog steals a cookie and you just stare in shock. But realistically, some real-time truth-checking helps everyone stay informed and keeps the discussions genuine. What's the harm in making sure everyone’s playing by the same set of rules?

[–] TheBat 14 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Are Colbert and Tomlinson going to bite the hand that feeds them? Let's hope so.

[–] Cyberflunk 2 points 1 day ago

No. I'm sure there'll be a network approved joke, but they won't like not do shows in protest or something

[–] AbouBenAdhem 16 points 1 day ago

...and now the strategy behind the couch rumors becomes clear.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 1 day ago

You know how everyone loses their god damned minds over seeing a commercial or a news site with an ad or, Erastil forbid, a paywall?

fascists don't throw a pissy fit when that happens. Which is why news media outlets are, at best, trying to not alienate them.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 day ago

I think this is going to be great. Vance can't control himself, and with no one fact checking him, he's going to make up even more ridiculous s***. Just think of all the entertainment we got from the sofas and the cats and dogs. He's just a walking meme machine.

(Yes, the cats and dogs story did lead to violent racist assholes trying to do bad things, but that was caused by Vance, not by us mocking him.)

[–] Cyberflunk 0 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

Bitch ass cowards at this point, who fucking cares who hosts it? Put it on zoom, and let them tap.

[–] MediaBiasFactChecker -4 points 1 day ago

Mother Jones - News Source Context (Click to view Full Report)Information for Mother Jones:

MBFC: Left-Center - Credibility: High - Factual Reporting: High - United States of America
Wikipedia about this source

Search topics on Ground.Newshttps://www.motherjones.com/politics/2024/09/cbs-moderators-wont-fact-check-the-vice-president-debate-walz-vance-veep/
Media Bias Fact Check | bot support