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[–] Godric 90 points 1 month ago (3 children)

"The US government will evacuate US citizens who have been unable to book commercial transit..."

And "The US embassy is not evacuating US citizens at this time. There is a commercially available flight available..."

There's a word we Americans like to use for liars who stretch the truth to fit their narrative: Republicans. Be a shame if we had to change it.

[–] Potatisen 30 points 1 month ago (20 children)

Scary the amount of people on Lemmy who just didn't read what little text is there.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 month ago

Well, this is posted by someone who seems to spend their entire lives jerking off about spreading negative shit about Biden, so makes sense

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[–] Ibaudia 1 points 1 month ago

Commercial flights will all be fully booked for months at least. The only realistic way for most Americans in Lebanon will likely be evacuation.

[–] Maggoty 1 points 1 month ago

Why aren't we evacuating people? It's great that you can read. But we want you to do the 2+2 too.

[–] Potatisen 40 points 1 month ago (3 children)

Does it not say "those unable to book flights"?

[–] [email protected] 19 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

My thoughts exactly. The right side says commercial flights are available and they will have to book those commercial flights. The left side says commercial flights are not available to all, and they will help those who can't book one.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 month ago

It certainly does. They could have added it where it is missing maybe, but potentially there are multiple flights available with maybe more capacity than needed?

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 month ago

When it's white people: there's commercial flights available but some are unable to book (because tickets limited? Because those people are too poor? No idea) so we have to use gov funds to make sure no one is left behind

When it's "brown" people: commercial flights are available if you've got the cash, if not, go fuck yourself

[–] Late2TheParty 14 points 1 month ago (5 children)

I think this is probably a dumb question, but I've never thought about it before and sure-as-shootin' don't know. The screenshot indicated one group of Americans is considered white and one is not. Is that a known perception? It's a total first-heard for me and I just... shit, it's never even crossed my mind to think about that.

TIA

[–] David_Eight 23 points 1 month ago

Race in general is a social construct that changes to suite racists, like when Italians weren't considered white but now are. But, racists of today consider Israeli/Jewish people with white while Lebanese/Muslim people are non-white/brown.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 1 month ago (1 children)

I don't think I know anyone who would consider an "Israeli-American" to be white, or even any whiter than "Lebanese-American", and I'm solidly Midwestern.

I kind of want to send out a bunch of messages to people asking if they consider one "white" or "whiter" than the other...

I know plenty of people who will give Israel carte Blanche simply because it "needs to exist for Jesus to come back" though, so answers wouod be skewed I imagine.

Sorry I didn't really answer your question, I'm interested to hear other people's takes as well.

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[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 month ago

Many/most people in Israel have some or a large amount of European ancestry, and are generally considered white. This is probably especially true for American ones. Meanwhile Lebanese people do not really have any large connection to European ancestry.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 month ago

Jews go into the "white" bucket for ethnicity while Muslims go into the "brown" bucket. Anecdotally in America at least this seems true of their general skin color. I'd say a large part is also that America hasn't really valued any middleast Muslim lives since 9/11 (perhaps earlier but I'm not that old).

[–] Maggoty 3 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Unless you're an actual neo Nazi, Jews have been accepted into the whiteness construct since the Holocaust. Arabs not so much...

[–] Late2TheParty 1 points 1 month ago

I tell ya, trying to decipher which group fits into whichever social construct someone wants them to be in just drains me. I'm gonna stay ignorant and train my focus on something else.

This has been enlightening, though. Thanks, all!

[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 month ago (3 children)

This interpretation makes no sense. They’re evacuating people from Israel, but not Lebanon. It has nothing to do with the ethnicity of the citizen specifically. It’s not as if a Lebanese American in Israel would be denied, which is what the stupid Twitter post and this post claim.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 month ago (2 children)

Israel is much safer than Lebanon, though. Lebanon isn't bombing Israel.

[–] _stranger_ 8 points 1 month ago

You can still buy a flight out of Lebanon, which seems to be what the messages are getting across.

If you're in Israel, it seems commercial flights are hard to come by, and the US will help you charter a ride home.

If you're in Lebanon, there's still commercial flights available and you should GTFO ASAP.

[–] Sheldybear 0 points 1 month ago

Bro, about 9k rockets have been fired at Israel from Lebanon since 8 October... that is why there have been Israelis evacuated from the north for almost a year

[–] Maggoty 3 points 1 month ago

That's the point. That's the whole ass point. Lebanon is getting the snot bombed out of it and Israel looks ready to invade. But we're not evacuating Americans.

The British have already told all British citizens to leave and have an evacuation force in Cyprus. But Biden is like, "fuck you, good luck!"

[–] deltapi 3 points 1 month ago

Did you notice the Israel evacuation is from last year, not this year?

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 month ago (2 children)

Biden: Pro human rights when it's politically convenient.

[–] [email protected] 18 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (13 children)

Left screenshot: "If you aren't able to book a commercial flight from Isreal, starting in 2 weeks we will help you"

Right screenshot: "we are not currently evacuating people from Lebanon, since there are normal commercial flights"

OP: "THATS RACIST!"

You: "Wow, look at how political that is!"

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 month ago (1 children)

OP, Linkerbaan, posts constant propaganda on Lemmy.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Only anti-Biden propaganda. I sure would feel weird if I was on a website from Luxembourg constantly criticizing politicians in the Netherlands or something.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 month ago

Yeah. Seems their intention with the bulk of their posts is to get Trump elected. I assume they're paid by the Kremlin.

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[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 month ago

Unfortunately even that's a high bar for most US politicians. There's plenty worse, but vanishingly few that go beyond it.

[–] Maggoty 2 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 children)

For those missing the context which seems like the entire section right now, The US has already evacuated all families of US personnel and nonessential personnel. The only next step for the State Department is the Marines flying into Beirut in helicopters to evacuate remaining personnel.

This is when civilians are evacuated with the most efficiency and highest survival rate. It costs the US next to nothing, in it's multi trillion dollar budget, to fly a C-130 into Beirut everyday right now for any American who cannot afford a commercial ticket or cannot secure a commercial ticket. (to be clear, this is not happening, but it could happen, and should happen.)

The reason for this is both the bombing campaign and that Netanyahu has told Biden they are going in on the ground and they're ready to do so at any time. The fact that we have not issued an evacuation order to American citizens in Lebanon and are not providing evacuations now is straight up bullshit.

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[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Do you mind sharing where you learned that America is sending a flight to actually evacuate Lebanese-Americans? The articles I have read saying they are sending troops there on standby but are not actually evacuating anyone in Lebanon yet.

[–] Maggoty 1 points 1 month ago

I should have been more clear, I was pointing that out as a possible course of action to avoid trying to evacuate people under fire.

[–] Alpha71 2 points 1 month ago

Technically, Israeli's are considered "brown people" too.

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