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[–] [email protected] 30 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Maybe Germany should offer part of Germany for Israel to exist in.

[–] quafeinum 4 points 1 month ago

There’s lots of unused space in brandenburg

[–] GarrulousBrevity 28 points 1 month ago (4 children)

Well, Germany does have some history there

[–] [email protected] 17 points 1 month ago

Which is exactly why Germany should make a sustained, honest and deep commitment to make Germany a sanctuary for Jews (and Roma people by the way), and a place where Jews would be guaranteed safety. Instead of outsourcing its responsibility to a country in some faraway war-torn region, Germany should establish a right of refuge in Germany for any person of Jewish decent anywhere in the world.

If they made a law saying that to become a German citizen, one must assume the historical burden of the Holocaust and wholeheartedly take on this historic debt to Jews (and other impacted peoples, again let's not forget the Roma people), nobody would bat an eyelid.

Frankly this goes more generally to insane statements like the ones made by US President Biden that Israel is the safest country in the world for Jews. Motherfuckers, there is literally nothing stopping you from making your own countries safe for Jews. If I were the chancellor of Germany I would be PROUD for Germany to be SAFER for Jews than Israel.

[–] [email protected] 13 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

Germany is being consistent in its support for a diaspora of European Jewish people forming a settler-colonial apartheid ethnostate. The Nazis tried to do that very thing themselves (against Jewush people and slavs, of course) and even worked with Zionists to get Jewish people to "self-deport", providing substantial financial assistance for this early part of the Holocaust. They even used the same forms of self-serving rationalizations for genocide, simultaneously portraying themselves as a victim and ethnically superior.

[–] SulaymanF 13 points 1 month ago

Zionism is a political philosophy. Israel is a secular political state. Judaism is a religion. Jewish is an ethnicity as well as followers of a religion.

One can support Jews and Judaism without supporting the rightwing Israeli government or the country. Millions of Jews worldwide already do.

Germany condemns Iran, does that mean they’re anti-Persian? No.

[–] spankmonkey -5 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Yeah, there's some context where this isn't 100% awful.

[–] [email protected] 20 points 1 month ago (2 children)

No, there really isn't. The Nazis collaborated with the founding Zionists, Israel has always been a genocidal settler-colonial project and Germany has retained support of it.

[–] spankmonkey -2 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Yes, it is complicated which is why I said "not 100% awful" instead of completely justified or something like that.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 month ago

It's 100% awful, it's just a continuation of Nazi ideology.

[–] rockSlayer 6 points 1 month ago

I'm sure the AfD is absolutely thrilled.