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[–] [email protected] 22 points 1 month ago (46 children)

lol no shit. Dozens of them are on here

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[–] [email protected] 13 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (2 children)

I know we used to find common ground and reach across the aisle, and I just don't know how we'll ever get back there now, to be quite honest. In that way, the American political landscape in the last 50 years has gotten much, much worse.

I'm honestly not sure how much of that you can attribute to foreign powers vs. Ronald Reagan, Donald Trump, and Dick Cheney (off the top of my head -- there are many more), but it's interesting to think about.

[–] orclev 12 points 1 month ago

Little of both. Ronald Reagan tilled the soil, and the later Republicans fertilized it. Why wouldn't foreign disinformation groups sow seeds in such perfect fields?

A big chunk of the problem in US politics is the two party system enforced by first past the post. Very few people actually agree with 100% of either party's policies, so the deciding factor for most people becomes either which party do I agree with more of their policies, or in some cases which policies do I feel are most critical and therefore drive the overall decision. This has been made even worse by Republicans strategically picking policies to try to drive a wedge in between them and Democrats particularly around certain hot button issues like abortion, gun control, and religion.

[–] iopq -1 points 1 month ago (3 children)

Ronald Reagan was immensely popular, even with some liberal voters.

[–] spankmonkey 11 points 1 month ago

Well, he was an actor. That helps with popularity in a setting where appearances are generally more important than substance

[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 month ago

Just because you’re popular, doesn’t make you right.

[–] orclev 5 points 1 month ago

He was very popular which made him that much more dangerous. His trickle down economics lie has done more to destroy the US economy than just about anything else. To this day there's still people who feel it's a viable model despite nearly half a century now of showing it doesn't work. He and Nancy Reagan are also responsible for continuing the culture war against minorities that Nixon started.

[–] halfwaythere 10 points 1 month ago (1 children)

We are Americans.. nobody can divide us better than ourselves!!

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 month ago (1 children)

We don't know what we're doing, we hate each other, we can't agree on anything, and we love killing one another. I think if they try to divide us any further we'll just end up wrapping back around.

[–] takeda 5 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

That's because they've been doing that for decades: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Active_measures#United_States

[–] LustyArgonianMana 2 points 1 month ago

Eat, sing, be happy - that's how community is built

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