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"Shut Down" is redundant. (self.showerthoughts)
submitted 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) by paraphrand to c/showerthoughts
 

Shut it down. Shutting down.

(Shutting up?)

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[–] [email protected] 26 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (3 children)

Telling a laptop to shut down is very different from telling it to shut up or just shut. Shutting a laptop doesn't shut it down (at least, not by default).

[–] [email protected] 8 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Shutting it does shut you out though, at least until you unshut it.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 months ago

Not if it’s plugged into a peripheral hub

[–] slazer2au 4 points 2 months ago

Stupid fast boot.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Shutting down a laptop also makes it shut up!

[–] [email protected] 4 points 2 months ago

If I close the laptop by lifting the bottom instead of lowering the top, is that also "shutting it up?" 🤔

[–] [email protected] 9 points 2 months ago

Shutdown is one word though.

[–] 11111one11111 6 points 2 months ago

There's so many grammatical definitions for both words I feel like there is a logical combination that makes it not redundant. With that being said they do both have I wanna say the same transitional verb definitions but both might be post-derivstive of "shut down."

[–] [email protected] 5 points 2 months ago

Welcome to the wonderful world of phrasal verbs, idioms, and collocations.

[–] over_clox 5 points 2 months ago (2 children)

That depends on the direction of the opening. Shut up means basically the same thing as shut down, but the hinged part operates in the opposite direction.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Yeah, just shut works for either. It's less so redundancy and more specificity.

If you think about it, there's only meaning with a frame of reference. Shutting up or shutting down could be nonsensical in the Void, as many things would be, I imagine.

[–] over_clox 3 points 2 months ago (2 children)

Shut the door, or close the window. Which came first, Doors or Windows?.. 🤔

[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 months ago

Doors and corners kid

[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Depends. If a room just has a hole in the wall, is it still a doorway?

[–] over_clox 2 points 2 months ago (1 children)

No, that's the urinal silly!

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 months ago

So if I just kick a hole in a wall at a friends house, it's ok to pee into it as well?

[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 months ago

And I think you shut up a mountain cabin.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 2 months ago

I'm into this. And the corollary. "Shit out" is redundant. Shit it out. Shitting out.

(Shitting in?) Makes sense in one context, but that's a completely different context than that which shitting out is typically used.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

We talking about the verb or the noun? I also have been look at the word "shut" too long and now it looks weird

[–] I_Clean_Here 2 points 2 months ago

Lay off the ganja, man

[–] jordanlund 0 points 2 months ago