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[–] [email protected] 32 points 2 months ago (9 children)

From someone who is all-in on Sony stuff (PS4 & PS4 Pro, PSVR1 & 2), this is tone deaf. Too much money for 5 Pro with not enough to show for it. Let alone disc drive and stand are extra too. Bizarre.

[–] slimerancher 11 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Disc drive I can understand, with the push for digital, but vertical stand? That's just cheap.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 2 months ago (1 children)

It feels like a weird time to launch it too. 60million are still on PS4. This is just going to fragment things even more for gamers and developers alike.

[–] Kelly 2 points 2 months ago

If I was buying a PS5 today? I'd buy the more powerful one.

But will I be upgrading from my 2020 PS5? Not unless it breaks.

[–] PP_BOY_ 5 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Agreed. I'm a lifetime PS fan going all the way back to nearly 30 years but Sony has completely turned me off to the idea of ever buying another console from them again. My PS5 (disc version) is probably my biggest financial regret of the last two years

[–] Anticorp 3 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Why? I've been rather pleased with my PS5 disc version. I've never actually used the disc, but it's there if I need to.

[–] garretble 2 points 2 months ago (5 children)

I've used the disc drive exactly twice for games in the last four years, but I'm happy it was there.

The second time, in fact, was just this last week because I was able to get Star Wars: Outlaws on disc for half off (some weird QVC deal a couple weeks ago).

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[–] jordanlund 4 points 2 months ago

The games look great, but not noticably greater than what the PS5 already does. ¯⁠\⁠_⁠(⁠ツ⁠)⁠_⁠/⁠¯

[–] [email protected] 4 points 2 months ago

Yeah, just get a PS5 slim? should be fine if you don't want the disc, or buy used PS5. My launch PS5 is still doing really well. But I stopped playing any multiplayer game on it and stopped PS Plus.

[–] slaacaa 3 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

Who wouldn’t want to pay nearly 1k EUR (incl. stand+disc drive) to play 6 year old PS4 games with slightly better performance?

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[–] Jackthelad 19 points 2 months ago

So if you want a disc drive and have your console vertically, it's actually £825.

All that just for a bit of upscaling.

[–] Theprogressivist 17 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Feels like this generation isn't even at the halfway point. Waste of money.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 2 months ago (2 children)

The regular PS5 came out in November 2020 so it's been about 4 years. The PS4 came out in 2013 and got replaced 7 years later. So I'd say it's pretty halfway.

I just hope this generation doesn't stick around for 10 years.

[–] Jackthelad 20 points 2 months ago

I'm still waiting for this generation to start.

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[–] [email protected] 16 points 2 months ago (4 children)

All respect to the "GPU Upgrade" I can't help but feel they added FSR, slapped a $700 sticker on it and called it Pro.

[–] [email protected] 13 points 2 months ago

I love that their version of FSR is called pisser

[–] MeatStiq 7 points 2 months ago

It already had FSR. And $700 is pretty good GPU money. At least on AMD.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 months ago (1 children)

I would have hoped for a bit more cpu grunt too.

45% faster is kinda meager considering it's 4 years newer. Hopefully it's based on Radeon 7000 series (or maybe 8k) so it's raytracing is actually useful.

[–] EvilBit 6 points 2 months ago

4 years newer and 40% more expensive.

[–] Anticorp 3 points 2 months ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (1 children)

FSR is AMD's name for their software upscaling technology. I guess Sony went and wrote their own upscaler because as someone above pointed out PS5 technically already had FSR, but similar to Nvidia DLSS, it's all the same idea : render a small frame image (like 720/1080) at higher quality detail and use AI to blow the frame up to 4k before it reaches the display.

https://www.amd.com/en/products/graphics/technologies/fidelityfx/super-resolution.html

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[–] [email protected] 15 points 2 months ago (1 children)

I’ve never been attracted by pc gaming, but the disappearance of disc drives and the high prices of PlayStation hardware these days is making me consider buying a Linux gaming PC after this generation.

I’d never thought this as I always saw so many advantages in console gaming..

But who knows, an optional disc drive on ps6 might still be proposed.

[–] PlasticExistence 6 points 2 months ago (1 children)

The Steam Deck is as close to a console as one could reasonably get while still offering all the flexibility and openness of a Linux PC.

I'm on my second (upgraded to an OLED), and I'm crazy satisfied with it.

I have a PS5 that goes mostly unused. I purchased the PS5 to continue my library from the PS4, but I've been really disappointed by this console generation. It doesn't feel like it was much of an upgrade given not many games target the PS5 alone. And now Sony is doing a Pro for what purpose exactly?

[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 months ago

The Steam Deck is a really exciting project and I might buy its successor but I guess it depends on how it would perform when docked on a bigger screen as I don’t see myself playing all the time on a small one.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (1 children)

800€+120€ disc drive.... That's just to much. But i don't really need it, i'm fine with the normal ps5

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

+ 30€ vertical stand 🤡

[–] [email protected] 9 points 2 months ago (2 children)

Yikes, that's not a good price, or look. And with most devs targeting PS4 (or Steam Deck) hardware these days, I'd say the new GPU will go underutilized outside of the AAAA sphere.

At that price point I'd say it'd be better to build a PC than get this thing.

[–] EvilBit 6 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Just wait until we start getting AAAAA games though!

[–] [email protected] 6 points 2 months ago

Ooooo, I hope it comes from yet another Ubisoft government subsidy scam

[–] Anticorp 3 points 2 months ago (4 children)

Unless things have changed dramatically since I built my PC a few years ago, you can't even get a good GFX card for that price, let alone build an entire PC.

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[–] [email protected] 7 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Wow. That was underwhelming. To be honest, my PS5 has been treated like a PS4 PRO PRO. Catching up on those old cheap PS4 games that had Pro patches. (I only have a base PS4). I mean TLOU2 looks great when patched for PS5 and I never understood why anyone would want the PS5 remaster because to my eyes there's very little difference.

Also, that price and no stand or drive. What were they thinking?

At the end of the day, whose going to spend £700 so that their games look a little bit better?

[–] Katana314 3 points 2 months ago

That’s basically my view on it, and I’m okay with it. PS4 is around the graphical plateau where I just don’t care about advances - it just struggled to keep a good 30fps at the time. We didn’t need much more.

I think since I got my PS5, I still haven’t bought any true “5 exclusives” which was much the same experience as my Series S.

[–] slaacaa 6 points 2 months ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 months ago (1 children)

500 USD in 2006 is worth the equivalent of 780 USD now though

[–] Lautaro 2 points 2 months ago

Yeah, but the PS3 had a disc drive. With the disc drive, PS5 Pro goes for more than $800.

[–] newthrowaway20 4 points 2 months ago (3 children)

This looks about as pointless as a PlayStation Portal.

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[–] [email protected] 4 points 2 months ago (3 children)

If physical disc drives disappear, I might leave consoles and only use a Linux gaming PC as they would lose a big advantage in my eyes.

In a way, I guess we really need Xbox to get back to shape so that Sony doesn't become the only player in its market and doesn't try anything stupid.

This or Valve releasing a gaming console/pc for your leaving room for approximately the price of a ps5.

But I just made a comparison online as I was trying to buy Star Wars Jedi Survivor and the game is around 80 dollars on Steam, 40 dollars on the ps store and 49 dollars for the physical version on ps5 on a swiss (my country) online retailer. So when people are saying that games are always cheaper on pc, I don't think it's always the case.

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[–] [email protected] 4 points 2 months ago (1 children)

I'm stunned by the negative comments, I'm excited and definitely getting this :D. All I wanted was higher framerates and better graphics with it if it's too much to ask. I'll get both + twice the storage. I don't use the drive and keep the console horizontally anyway.

[–] slimerancher 4 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Well, the general consensus seems to be, the upgrade doesn't seem very noticeable, and the price is too expensive. $200 more than the base model.

I think there would have been less complaints at $600 price range, but that's just my speculation.

But if you like it, and can afford it, it is more powerful than PS5, so go for it!

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (1 children)

I'm excited because this might drive down used prices for the older (disc) models. Actually they might keep selling the slim cheaper new as a budget version.

[–] slimerancher 2 points 2 months ago

Depends on the adoption, if enough people don't go for it, it won't make much for a difference.

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