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Building safe, green cities be like (slrpnk.net)

submitted 3 months ago by [email protected] to c/[email protected]

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[–] Seaguy05 27 points 3 months ago (1 children)

City: Best I can do is require businesses to use paper straws.

[–] [email protected] 17 points 3 months ago

Aaand charge for plastic bags. Mission accomplished.

[+] [email protected] 10 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago) (2 children)

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[–] grue 14 points 3 months ago (2 children)

If by "personal vehicles" you mean mobility scooters and wheelchairs, then sure!

Nobody should actually need personal automobiles in a properly-designed city, though. Not even disabled people. The only kinds of automobile traffic that are actually necessary should be deliveries, tradespeople, and buses.

[+] [email protected] 11 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago) (1 children)

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[–] grue 5 points 3 months ago (2 children)

Okay, but when a properly-designed town looks like this...

...it's not as if they'd have anywhere to park their van anyway. The correct solution here is to have plentiful public seating for them to rest on and for them to pull their equipment along behind them in a cart or something.

Your argument is as unreasonable as suggesting they should be allowed to drive through an indoor shopping mall, Blues Brothers-style.

[–] krashmo 2 points 3 months ago (1 children)

16th Street in Denver is just that, one street. And it's really only like that for about 8 blocks. It works fairly well to build in that way for a small area but replacing all of the downtown infrastructure is not really practical, much less the whole city.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 3 months ago

Amsterdam is about the same size as Denver and has a at least low car city center. Works pretty well.Venice down town might be one of the most beautiful in the world and is pretty much completly car free. It sort of works, besides the tourists that is.

[–] [email protected] -1 points 3 months ago

in a cart or something

in a cart or something? Wow. I love how you hate people who can't ride bikes.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 3 months ago

properly-designed city

Doesn't exist.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 3 months ago (2 children)

I love how 'bike lane' is the first and last suggestion ever. I love how in my old town they tore up a commuter railbed to make an urban bike trail, knowing full well they were ripping up green transport for .. bikes.

Maybe sit down, kevin, and let's get people out of cars before we jam them into your favourite hobby.

[–] Soup 4 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

Bike lanes aren’t just for cyclists, and actually it can pretty easily argued that a basically insignificant number of the users are hardcore cyclists. Where I live a bicycle is simply one of the best ways to get around and people will just use the great bikeshare program to get around.

So yea, nothing to do with someone’s hobby, and most everyone who wants to see a bike lane also wants everything else. What we’re all mad about is that bike lanes are so fucking easy to do and yet you’ll never see a temper tantrum like when you ask for a road that’s way wider than it needs to be to have one installed.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 3 months ago

In my town the old railhouse is an isolated shelter on a concrete island flanked with 5-6 lane one way roads. Thanks Rails to Trails!