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Firefox 130.0 Release Notes (www.mozilla.org)

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[–] [email protected] 20 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

I love that the local translation feature is getting regular small updates to make it more useable. It's a great feature.

[–] MrOtherGuy 13 points 3 weeks ago

Indeed. Also, the auto-open PiP is super nice feature I've been using a lot.

[–] [email protected] 16 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

Is firefox getting paid for advertising ChatGPT, Google Gemini, HuggingChat, and Le Chat Mistral in their browser?

[–] [email protected] 7 points 3 weeks ago

Most probably.

[–] ilinamorato 11 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

Oh, that auto-PIP for videos is an interesting idea.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

I just hope you can set a whitelist or blacklist for that feature. I'd love for youtubes videos to automatically PIP. What I don't want is the garbage videos on news websites to PIP when I try to change a tab.

That's honestly the best part of the "don't autoplay video" feature.

[–] ilinamorato 1 points 3 weeks ago

Yeah, I think it said that it would only do it for playing videos, so if you have "don't autoplay" active, I would assume it wouldn't pop it out.

But I haven't tried it yet.

[–] vbb 8 points 3 weeks ago

Japanese to English when?

[–] gedaliyah 6 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

Does this version have vertical tabs or is that still in the nightly build only?

[–] dodos 8 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago) (2 children)

You can enable them in about:config if you search vertical.

Edit: to be more specific, the setting is 'sidebar.verticalTabs'

[–] gedaliyah 2 points 3 weeks ago

Great, thanks !

[–] vbb 2 points 3 weeks ago

Also sidebar.revamp. It's kinda underwhelming, because as of now sidebar doesn't include tab titles and empty headerbar isn't removed. Hope it's going to be improved in the future

[–] [email protected] 4 points 3 weeks ago

Is it possible to use ollama or an arbitrary OpenAI-compatible endpoint with the chatbot feature yet? Or only the cloud providers?

[+] [email protected] -13 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago) (1 children)

TL;DR: They added a stupid chatbot feature. Fuck Mozilla as of late.

[–] ilinamorato 29 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

For clarity: they added an opt-in experimental sidebar that you can put a chatbot of your choice into.

[–] [email protected] 14 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago) (2 children)

Fair enough. They added an opt-in experimental sidebar that you can put a chatbot of your choice into instead of working on anything more pressing.

[–] ilinamorato 24 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

Yeah, except everyone in the community disagrees on what that "more pressing" thing is. I am waiting impatiently for tab groups, but I know some people are holding their breaths for vertical tabs (which I couldn't care less about). I think they should implement ActivityPub and RSS readers natively, but some people are bored by that entire idea.

Meanwhile, Google is putting AI features into Chrome, expanding the expectation that those features will be in any browser; which can impact adoption if they're not in Firefox, too.

Mozilla has to balance their development between the priorities of multiple types of existing users but also their potential future users. I don't envy the decision-making process.

[–] Xeroxchasechase 1 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

These are things that add-ons can do. I like sidebery very much for the purpose of tabs grouping.

[–] ilinamorato 1 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

Vertical tabs, ActivityPub, and RSS yes; but while Sidebery makes tabs vertical, it can't actually do grouping on the existing tab bar. Actually, no add-on can touch the tab bar (other than getting rid of it, I think; though that just might be via userchrome css). If they opened up the tab bar for add-ons to fiddle with, I am sure that a decent tab grouping add-on would come out in minutes.

I'm apparently an old curmudgeon about tabs being on the top of the screen, so anything that moves the tabs to the sidebar is kind of a nonstarter for me. I think it's because I like to use my computer with multiple applications open side-by-side (or with a browser open on a vertical monitor), for which vertical tabs would take over too much real estate.

Anyway, they said they're working on tab grouping, so hopefully in that process they also give some more capabilities in that realm to add-ons.

[–] Xeroxchasechase 1 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

Ah, of course. Personaly I like the vertical tabs because of the tree structure and different panels to hide even more.

By the way, have you tried floorp?

[–] ilinamorato 1 points 3 weeks ago

Not yet. Floorp and Midori are on my list to try out, but I just haven't had a chance to go through the setup and conversion process yet. Maybe someday.

[–] umbraroze 2 points 3 weeks ago

To me this doesn't sound like a massive amount of work went into this, it's just a sidebar that displays a web page.

Pretty much the same thing happened with Pocket. "Why is Pocket integrated to Firefox?" "Well it's a project wholly owned by Mozilla. If you don't like it, you can just remove the button." "Well I still don't like it at all - can I remove it entirely to reclaim some of the bloat?" "What bloat? It's just a button and a few web API calls, disk/memory saving would be negligible."