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[–] Ghostalmedia 180 points 2 months ago (9 children)

TIL the flash animation I made in 2004 is still available on Newgrounds.

https://www.newgrounds.com/portal/view/201157

[–] [email protected] 55 points 2 months ago (1 children)

I'm pretty sure you're the most famous person to use Lemmy. Well besides Margot Robbie

[–] Ghostalmedia 53 points 2 months ago (1 children)

31k views on Newgrounds. I’m basically the Taylor Swift of Lemmy.

[–] confluence 6 points 2 months ago (1 children)

The cellular-bananular phone changed my life. I still sing it to this day

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[–] [email protected] 18 points 2 months ago

Newgrounds is dead serious about preserving its content, even with the death of Flash. Ruffle, the Flash emulator, was created by a former employee and Newgrounds is a major sponsor of the project. The most important movies have been converted to video as well.

When Newgrounds adopted high-resolution thumbnails about a decade and a half ago, there was a big volunteer campaign to recreate thumbnails for the entire back catalogue of the portal.

Thanks to Ruffle, people can and are still submitting Flash content to the portal, in addition to web-friendly content!

[–] [email protected] 13 points 2 months ago

yo, this is straight fire

[–] TropicalDingdong 11 points 2 months ago (1 children)

fuck I started leaning to program in flash specifically because of videos like this.

[–] Ghostalmedia 8 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Actionscript 2 was the shit

[–] TropicalDingdong 6 points 2 months ago

Flash for Dummies was my first book on programing. I used it to make games about feces.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 2 months ago

Oh my god. I can't get the song out of my head now! Sweet Jesus what have you done to me?!

[–] [email protected] 7 points 2 months ago

Love it lol. That banana phone song was a blast from the past.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

Omg mine too (too embarrassing to share).

I forgot how much more patient with pacing we all used to be back in the 00s. Just trusting that the video would go somewhere and there'd be a payoff.

Looking at some of the popular videos from back then, people these days would just scroll away because nothing hooked their attention quickly enough. Myself included. We've been trained to expect such quick payoff 😭.

Fuck, now I'ma have to go check on my old deviantart account.

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[–] [email protected] 67 points 2 months ago (2 children)

TIL Newgrounds still exists.

[–] [email protected] 48 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (2 children)

Not only does it still exist, newgrounds is unique in that it is a long-running website from the early days that is still being run by the same person (never bought out or sold), still has no ads (despite funding issues), still has the same basic focus, still hosting the same content, and is still more or less exactly the same despite some UI changes.

Granted part of that is there hasn't been any real pressure on it, but still.

Genuinely, it is the kind of thing that I would want to put behind glass, because it is an abnormality in this wasteland we call the internet. It's this beautiful little corner that has been allowed to remain as it is, unmolested by the terrible bullshit around it.

[–] [email protected] 15 points 2 months ago

It's feels like it's the only site where the algorithm doesn't kill animators.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 2 months ago

Shit, am I about to become a newgrounds user again after like 15 years?

[–] Dasnap 40 points 2 months ago (1 children)

I assume the success of Friday Night Funkin' gave it some extra life.

[–] [email protected] 31 points 2 months ago (1 children)

There's also a lot of porn

[–] Scio 35 points 2 months ago

Friday Night Fuckin' as well, then

[–] [email protected] 58 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Newgrounds would be awesome in the Fediverse tbh, would bring so much content (beyond politics and news).

Image hosting seems to be super problematic with activity pub, especially with something pf Newgrounds' size. I'm super invested in this, can't wait to see where it'll go.

[–] [email protected] 36 points 2 months ago (2 children)

Not to mention that fediverse software still loves to occasionally hug of death a server when you post links, heh.

(Post federates to lots of servers, and lots of servers pull images/previews all at more or less once.)

[–] TheTechnician27 10 points 2 months ago

Quick, someone post "Cascade" from Homestuck and bring down the entire fediverse.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 2 months ago

Perhaps for images they'd have to federate just the text and a small thumbnail, and then just the people interested would click through. I wonder if that'd be enough.

@[email protected] @[email protected]

[–] TropicalDingdong 31 points 2 months ago (4 children)

So we need better federated hosting...

[–] [email protected] 29 points 2 months ago (2 children)

I'd love to be able to "seed" the fediverse through p2p hosting of some sort. I'd set aside 1 TB of storage and 20 MB/s for that.

[–] TropicalDingdong 27 points 2 months ago (9 children)

Yeah I've thought a tiny bit about this but it gets dodgy with things like csam.

How do we address some one uploading stuff that would get you arrested?

[–] [email protected] 10 points 2 months ago (1 children)

I would hav thought stuff like Lemmy would have configurations to eg.: not allow to upload images locally, only hotlink.

Anyway, an alternative is "zero knowledge" storage, where you don't know what you are storing (hence, you can't "choose" what to host or not host either). Another alternative is disjoint storage, where two different servers store different halves of a file (eg.: an Odd Bytes server and an Even Bytes server), but this means now it's necessary to hit more servers to recover a file.

But the sensible thing to do IMO is to apply "common carrier" concept. The water distribution company is not, to my knowledge, held liable when something happens like you fill a bucket of water and share it with someone else.

[–] TropicalDingdong 8 points 2 months ago

The water distribution company is not, to my knowledge, held liable when something happens like you fill a bucket of water and share it with someone else.

No but they are liable if there is lead in the water, even if they don't know it.

[–] BrianTheeBiscuiteer 9 points 2 months ago (4 children)

There's gotta be some kind of limited liability for this kind of thing. I mean, banks wouldn't be liable if someone put csam in a safe deposit box or (assuming they don't x-ray packages) UPS shipping csam in a sealed package. I think there just needs to be reasonable safeguards against it but I don't know if any of that is built into the software.

[–] SzethFriendOfNimi 12 points 2 months ago (2 children)

Issue here is that what’s in a safe deposit box isn’t also being shared/distributed. It is locked away.

If, however, they made copies of the contents of a box and put it in other boxes … and it came out somebody used that for CSAM then there probably would be some kind of liability.

Besides CSAM there’s also copyrighted material, etc which section 230 kind of covers but even then gets tricky since there’s a duty to respond to DMCA takedowns in order to get safe harbor protections.

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[–] [email protected] 24 points 2 months ago

I’d donate a few dollars a month. Newgrounds is a great content creation space. I still play games there from time to time. The Mario 63 game is off the wall. Dead Estate is also a fantastic retro style shooter like the ones I remember from my childhood. I think places like this need to survive.

[–] [email protected] 21 points 2 months ago (2 children)

Hell Yeah, Newgrounds is blocked in my country. But if they added Activity Pub it will solve the problem for me.

[–] Lost_My_Mind 20 points 2 months ago (1 children)

What country blocks new grounds of all things?

[–] [email protected] 19 points 2 months ago
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[–] [email protected] 15 points 2 months ago (1 children)

The Problems of Tomorrow, Today!

[–] jelloeater85 5 points 2 months ago

Oh man, I miss that shit so much heh heh

[–] [email protected] 13 points 2 months ago (1 children)

"Millions of people" if only...

[–] NOT_RICK 6 points 2 months ago (3 children)

Mastodon has a couple million ADUs

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[–] [email protected] 8 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

but is concerned about hosting fees for serving images to millions of people

People stopped caring about image bandwidth decades ago. Try wrangling a video-hosting problem, like PeerTube does.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 2 months ago

I missing the hamsters and dancing Jesus.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 2 months ago

so like not share the videos peertube style? just the art section of the site?

[–] [email protected] 5 points 2 months ago (1 children)

hasnt this already been solved with cdns? even if you just use it for the image hosting.

[–] Robin 9 points 2 months ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 6 points 2 months ago (1 children)

shit costs money. cant imagine wanting to stand up a server/instance/whatevs with no hosting costs.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 2 months ago

Not no hosting cost, but cost for things you don't want or need. I would host a server if it only filled up with things on my direct server and not pulling images and posts from other servers

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