Thou Shall Not Preorder
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Good. Preordering games is the dumbest fucking concept. People need to stop doing this.
But what if they run out of digital copies?
But what if they offer a limited edition Gandhi skin
I will potentially not buy it then.
How many times do we have to teach these companies this lesson? Anti-piracy DRM never stops pirates, it only causes harm to legitimate paying customers. Pirates get the objective better experience playing a game with DRM removed because they not only get the game for free, but it performs better than the version people pay for. Why pay money for something that is objectively worse than getting it for free?
Nobody's teaching these companies any lessons. They keep using Denuvo because it works, and the games keep selling because the number of people actually bothered by it is pretty small.
Source needed for it actually working to reduce piracy. It's possible, but I'm gonna need sources since we know from history that simply providing a better product does more to increase sales and reduce piracy than anything else. People are willing to pay when they get their money's worth. The ones that don't, weren't going to pay anyway, so there's no actual lost sale.
It just makes the bean counters feel better and help justify their position.
It's not really clear if working DRM increases sales. But most Denuvo games don't get cracked, so it definetly prevents most piracy.
Denuvo specifically is only cracked consistently by like three people. A turbo racist, a trans woman, and a dude who only cracks the newest sports games.
Oh has she been confirmed to be trans? Last I heard she was full insane terf. Unless I’m thinking of the turbo racist and missed some scandals.
Idk if confirmed trans but she's also not had the best political takes recently ...
It seems cracking denuvo comes with some insane change to your psyche cause nobody that can do it is normal lol
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Yep. Most people have no spine, or even care about it. Whatever, I can waste my time and money on other games. It's not like there's a lack of them out there, even outside of Denuvo, EA & Ubisoft.
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To be fair denuvo is really effective.
It usually takes a long ass time for denuvo games to get cracked if at all.
Last I checked there were only two people cracking denuvo, one who only likes football games and one really crazy lady.
Also the lack of piracy is most important for publishers around launch and that's reflected in denuvo's pricing which IIRC increases substantially after a year or two (this is a fairly recent change)
So more games have started to remove Denuvo after a while after launch.
Before they changed it, I believe the publishers got to keep Denuvo at no extra cost if they didn't change the game or something but now it gets more expensive the further from launch you go
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i mean civ is never really worth buying until they put out a complete edition with all the features they removed so they could slowly sell them back to you as dlc.
Try unciv
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Aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaand there it vanishes from my Wishlist. Thought after Civ 5 it might be actually something potentially worth buying, but nope. Removing the Launchers just to add Denuvo... What an absolute dumbass move.
But they're preempting a problem they've never had. Certainly you can understand that, right?
I'm gonna wait for the platinum ultimate mega collector's anthology edition at a 90% discount after 7 years.
I'm still only on turn 270 in my first Civ3 game, don't have time for a newer version, Ghandi's bombers have almost all finished moving this month.
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Oh. Well I was excited about Civ 7 right until this moment.
Anti-tamper = no mods worth your time = only worth playing a handful of times. Also may have trouble working on Linux.
Guess that's gonna be the first Civ game I'm not buying.
Nope. If it does, I'm not buying it.
Denuvo?
More like De-not-gonna... ah fuck that was terrible, please ignore
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And the excitement I had has gone. Removed from wish list and added to ignore list.
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I guess I'll keep playing Civ 5, then?
Unciv is an open source version of Civ V that works on Android and PC, if you really want to lose some hours
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There hasn't been a need for a new Civ since IV so I already wasn't gonna buy it, but now I'm gonna not buy it even harder.
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Boo
Ha ha ha...no
On one hand, the gameplay doesn't usually change so drastically that a new version matters too much.
On the other, if they did dramatically change up the gameplay it might suck.
So even though they have a decent track record and I love Civilization, I would never pre-order or buy day 1. I'll wait and see if it's actually worth getting. I will also say, in my experience, like 90% of games that used Denovu have not been good in the first place. I can name only 1 I thought was worth its cost, and I only got it after they removed the DRM (Lies of P).
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DOA
Well, that killed my interest.
Civ 7: "No more turns" living up to the name
Guess I'll wait for a nice drm-free cracked version rather than buying it.
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