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[–] [email protected] 168 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (1 children)
[–] Coreidan 32 points 2 months ago (2 children)

Good. Preordering games is the dumbest fucking concept. People need to stop doing this.

[–] [email protected] 30 points 2 months ago

But what if they run out of digital copies?

[–] [email protected] 6 points 2 months ago

But what if they offer a limited edition Gandhi skin

[–] RightHandOfIkaros 112 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (4 children)

I will potentially not buy it then.

How many times do we have to teach these companies this lesson? Anti-piracy DRM never stops pirates, it only causes harm to legitimate paying customers. Pirates get the objective better experience playing a game with DRM removed because they not only get the game for free, but it performs better than the version people pay for. Why pay money for something that is objectively worse than getting it for free?

[–] [email protected] 71 points 2 months ago (2 children)

Nobody's teaching these companies any lessons. They keep using Denuvo because it works, and the games keep selling because the number of people actually bothered by it is pretty small.

[–] halcyoncmdr 36 points 2 months ago (4 children)

Source needed for it actually working to reduce piracy. It's possible, but I'm gonna need sources since we know from history that simply providing a better product does more to increase sales and reduce piracy than anything else. People are willing to pay when they get their money's worth. The ones that don't, weren't going to pay anyway, so there's no actual lost sale.

It just makes the bean counters feel better and help justify their position.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 2 months ago (1 children)

It's not really clear if working DRM increases sales. But most Denuvo games don't get cracked, so it definetly prevents most piracy.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Denuvo specifically is only cracked consistently by like three people. A turbo racist, a trans woman, and a dude who only cracks the newest sports games.

[–] captainlezbian 6 points 2 months ago (3 children)

Oh has she been confirmed to be trans? Last I heard she was full insane terf. Unless I’m thinking of the turbo racist and missed some scandals.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (2 children)

Idk if confirmed trans but she's also not had the best political takes recently ...

It seems cracking denuvo comes with some insane change to your psyche cause nobody that can do it is normal lol

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[–] [email protected] 6 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Yep. Most people have no spine, or even care about it. Whatever, I can waste my time and money on other games. It's not like there's a lack of them out there, even outside of Denuvo, EA & Ubisoft.

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[–] [email protected] 6 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

To be fair denuvo is really effective.

It usually takes a long ass time for denuvo games to get cracked if at all.

Last I checked there were only two people cracking denuvo, one who only likes football games and one really crazy lady.

Also the lack of piracy is most important for publishers around launch and that's reflected in denuvo's pricing which IIRC increases substantially after a year or two (this is a fairly recent change)

So more games have started to remove Denuvo after a while after launch.

Before they changed it, I believe the publishers got to keep Denuvo at no extra cost if they didn't change the game or something but now it gets more expensive the further from launch you go

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[–] thedirtyknapkin 90 points 2 months ago (22 children)

i mean civ is never really worth buying until they put out a complete edition with all the features they removed so they could slowly sell them back to you as dlc.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 2 months ago
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[–] [email protected] 86 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaand there it vanishes from my Wishlist. Thought after Civ 5 it might be actually something potentially worth buying, but nope. Removing the Launchers just to add Denuvo... What an absolute dumbass move.

[–] [email protected] 22 points 2 months ago

But they're preempting a problem they've never had. Certainly you can understand that, right?

[–] [email protected] 57 points 2 months ago (1 children)

I'm gonna wait for the platinum ultimate mega collector's anthology edition at a 90% discount after 7 years.

[–] Angry_Autist 15 points 2 months ago (1 children)

I'm still only on turn 270 in my first Civ3 game, don't have time for a newer version, Ghandi's bombers have almost all finished moving this month.

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[–] [email protected] 53 points 2 months ago (9 children)

That's one way to get people to turn to piracy.

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[–] [email protected] 43 points 2 months ago

Oh. Well I was excited about Civ 7 right until this moment.

Anti-tamper = no mods worth your time = only worth playing a handful of times. Also may have trouble working on Linux.

[–] [email protected] 42 points 2 months ago

Guess that's gonna be the first Civ game I'm not buying.

[–] [email protected] 40 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Nope. If it does, I'm not buying it.

[–] Angry_Autist 8 points 2 months ago (2 children)

Denuvo?

More like De-not-gonna... ah fuck that was terrible, please ignore

[–] [email protected] 8 points 2 months ago (1 children)

I'm sure you meant De-no-go. It's alright

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[–] tiny_parking 29 points 2 months ago (1 children)

And the excitement I had has gone. Removed from wish list and added to ignore list.

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[–] [email protected] 26 points 2 months ago (5 children)

I guess I'll keep playing Civ 5, then?

[–] [email protected] 21 points 2 months ago (4 children)

Unciv is an open source version of Civ V that works on Android and PC, if you really want to lose some hours

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[–] _sideffect 21 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Now we can all build cities at 15 fps!

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[–] [email protected] 18 points 2 months ago (3 children)

There hasn't been a need for a new Civ since IV so I already wasn't gonna buy it, but now I'm gonna not buy it even harder.

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[–] [email protected] 16 points 2 months ago
[–] SlothMama 16 points 2 months ago

Ha ha ha...no

[–] [email protected] 12 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (1 children)

On one hand, the gameplay doesn't usually change so drastically that a new version matters too much.

On the other, if they did dramatically change up the gameplay it might suck.

So even though they have a decent track record and I love Civilization, I would never pre-order or buy day 1. I'll wait and see if it's actually worth getting. I will also say, in my experience, like 90% of games that used Denovu have not been good in the first place. I can name only 1 I thought was worth its cost, and I only got it after they removed the DRM (Lies of P).

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[–] Phegan 12 points 2 months ago
[–] Alexstarfire 9 points 2 months ago

Well, that killed my interest.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 2 months ago

Civ 7: "No more turns" living up to the name

[–] [email protected] 6 points 2 months ago

Guess I'll wait for a nice drm-free cracked version rather than buying it.

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