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[–] reallynotnick 187 points 2 years ago (1 children)
[–] mysoulishome 72 points 2 years ago (16 children)

Yep. They really doubled down on privacy/security and it’s pretty admirable. The President doesn’t use an android or a blackberry for a reason. (Well, two in the case of blackberry. Security and existing). If only there were no other problematic areas of Apple’s business (manufacturing, wages, environmental impact).

[–] Areopagus 31 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Can't wait for them to put their money where their mouth is and do the same in China and other large population countries that demand the same thing 😂

[–] [email protected] 9 points 2 years ago

They use WeChat anyway.

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[–] Ghostalmedia 65 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (2 children)

This is one thing Apple has been pretty firm on. You can’t have a secure product and have backdoors. You can try to hide them all you want, but a backdoor will always be a massive security vulnerability.

[–] SGG 22 points 2 years ago

Will, except in China. They opened the backdoor nice and wide for Winnie the Pooh so he could gobble up all the Chinese iCloud data

[–] jmanes 44 points 2 years ago (2 children)

Good on them for standing up for what's right on this.

[–] GatoB 10 points 2 years ago (1 children)
[–] whofearsthenight 9 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Not really. Apple's track record for this kind of thing is pretty great. See also, the San Bernardino case.

[–] GatoB 3 points 2 years ago (1 children)
[–] tabular 7 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (2 children)

Apple doesn't like be told what to do.

If privacy is in the way of their desires then Apple will invade their user's privacy. They don't stand for privacy.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 years ago

Only apple is allowed to spy on it's users

[–] jmanes 3 points 2 years ago (4 children)

Seems like you're spewing FUD to me, mostly. I agree Apple is far from perfect, but they literally introduced an e2e methodology for much of iCloud data recently.

Besides, even if they are only doing this out of selfish desire, it's still a good thing for the consumers in this case.

[–] fuckwit_mcbumcrumble 1 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Has everyone forgotten about Apples plan to scan every single photo uploaded to iCloud for harmful content? They can and will destroy any semblance of privacy for the right reason.

[–] itsJoelle 1 points 2 years ago

Well, scan hashes -- they didn't look at images directly until it was flagged. That being said, it'd require trusts from users they aren't looking at everything directly.

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[–] [email protected] 34 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Good, why should they comprise security. It makes it easier for everyone to hack, not just the government

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[–] [email protected] 25 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

21st century governments: Hey guys, why don't we ban math?

Yeah good luck with that. Gotta give it to Apple on this one, though I'm not a huge fan of their business practices otherwise.

[–] Pixlbabble 9 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Can we get iMessage on Android in the States tho?

[–] [email protected] 21 points 2 years ago (6 children)

We have iMessage at home (it's Signal and nobody else uses it)

[–] Nima 4 points 2 years ago (1 children)

they removed the ability to send sms in the app. so I, like many others, moved on to other apps that could handle such a task.

signal isn't capable of anything other than talking to other signal users. so it's a dead app.

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[–] reddig33 8 points 2 years ago (1 children)

I don’t doubt it. Apple would probably just ship a new app called “Texts” or something that only does traditional cell carrier text messages, and then refer customers to third party solutions for video conferencing. A nice explanatory web page on Apple’s website to point customers in the region towards would be the cherry on top.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 2 years ago

No need for a new app. The app is already called „messages“. Just remove iMessage support and it works „fine“

[–] JiveTurkey 6 points 2 years ago

Hope this comes to fruition. Maybe it would help people realize how dumb it is to be locked into these services in the first place.

[–] laminam 4 points 2 years ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 5 points 2 years ago

We will have to wait and see what if they actually follow through.

They are big ones for making grand statements and then quietly backtracking later on once all the press isn't paying attention anymore.

[–] tabular 3 points 2 years ago

I'd say good on Apple protecting their users but knowing Apple it's more like they don't want to be told what to do.

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