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[–] Ledivin 168 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (14 children)

What's Concord? I've literally never heard of this before

Spoiler: if you don't advertise at all, people won't play your game

[–] woelkchen 143 points 2 months ago (2 children)

Spoiler: if you don’t advertise at all, people won’t play your game

Also:

[–] [email protected] 35 points 2 months ago (2 children)

That right there is a giant NOPE for me.

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[–] [email protected] 4 points 2 months ago

Yeah that was my big "haha no" moment.

Even if it was on sale for like 95% off, I don't want that Sony spyware.

[–] [email protected] 91 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (2 children)

Its an enormously overproduced Overwatch clone with zany characters that seem to be going for Guardians of the Galaxy, an art style that is basically just bizarre, and gameplay from a decade ago.

Sony wanted their own Overwatch, after seeing its success, then spent a huge amount of time and money developing it, and this is what they came up with.

Oh, right, it isn't free to play, costs 40 bucks, and then also has an astounding amount of microtransactions.

EDIT: Based off of current active player count, Concord has cost approximately $200,000 dollars per active player to produce.

Better hope they are all omega class hyper whale spenders, I guess.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 2 months ago (1 children)

I just watched the trailer because I wanted to understand your comment. I definitely see the zaniness and Guardians of the Galaxy vibes. I always thought Overwatch was bizarre (but that's just me) but this is clearly more.

However, as someone that doesn't play shooters, could you develop more on what defines a gameplay from a decade ago? I wonder what can change that much in that kind of game.

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[–] [email protected] 39 points 2 months ago (2 children)

It’s a new game in which you play two folk musicians from New Zealand. You start off in a small NY apartment trying to get gigs and establish a relationship with an official at the local New Zealand consulate who later becomes your band manager.

It cost $4-billion dollars to develop, utilizes the F-14 Tomcat game engine from GameBoy Advance, and is expected to generate tens of dollars of revenue for Sony Corp.

[–] dellish 8 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Are any flights involved? I feel some flights should be involved in this setup...

[–] [email protected] 5 points 2 months ago (1 children)

It might be a different game, but I thought there would be flights too! Especially when they fight against the robot uprising of the year 2000.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 2 months ago

I'm a hiphopopotamus main btw.

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[–] [email protected] 27 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Yeah, hadn't heard about it until today either. But Steam also kind of torpedoed their launch by lifting their NDA for Deadlock on the same day. Not sure how similar they are, but that'll grab most of the attention from gamers right now.

[–] [email protected] 17 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Both have heroes and are shooters, but the similarities end here, but you're overall right. From what I've seen of concord, it's just valorant with a mediocre twist, whereas deadlock has been my go-to game for the last week.

[–] Jackthelad 9 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Concord is nothing like Valorant. The gameplay isn't even remotely similar.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 2 months ago

Yeah valorant is basically counterstrike with heroes, concord is overwatch but somehow even more boring.

[–] Omegamanthethird 15 points 2 months ago

I've seen ads on random apps. But the logo looks like a '90s PC software logo. And nothing showed what the game actually looked like.

The clips they've shown look like the fake video games that you see in an advertisement for a specialized university.

[–] Jackthelad 13 points 2 months ago

The marketing has been appalling. They've mainly focussed their intentions on PS5, but why release a game on a platform but not advertise it for that platform?

Maybe word-of-mouth about the game and some discounts might improve things over the coming months, but Sony have made a bit of a mess with the PC side of this.

[–] DrSleepless 11 points 2 months ago

Yep, first I’ve heard of it

[–] Dasus 11 points 2 months ago (4 children)

I think Valve would disagree.

~60k players on Deadlock yesterday, ~100k today. Probably more tomorrow. It's still in playtest.

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[–] [email protected] 10 points 2 months ago (1 children)

they showed it off at the May 30th state of play, and thats about it for advertising. if you were a pc player and didnt watch sonys presentation, you likely would have never known

[–] [email protected] 5 points 2 months ago (1 children)

What is a "state of play"? When googling a 2009 movie of that name seems to feature prominently on the results page.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 2 months ago

state of play is sony's counterpart to "Nintendo Direct". With the death of E3, all major companies have their own showcase of shows digitally, while some of them will just announce it in the general show (Geoff's Summer Game fest, the "generic e3 show")

basically Sony if showing off their own games, has 2 shows:

State of Play is sonys version of, includes 3rd party companies producing content on playstation

Sony also has a different showcase called "Playstation Showcase" thats directed specifically to 1st party stuff

just for completion sake, Microsoft's game info show is called "Xbox Game Showcase"

[–] [email protected] 8 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

I only ever saw one ad for the game, on my PlayStation, the day before it came out and even then I couldn't tell what it was. Is this a game? A movie? A TV show? The trailer fucking sucked at actually advertising what it was. No gameplay, no mention that it even was a game. It just seemed like a scene from an animated show for tweens.

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[–] [email protected] 90 points 2 months ago (3 children)

I was watching a livestream of this game's reveal trailer. The chat was excited at first during the cinematic trailer. Sure, it looked like a Malt-O-Meal Guardians of the Galaxy, but it still looked like it could be fun. Then as soon as they said "5 v 5 live service game" there was a giant, collective "oh nevermind lol" from the chat.

[–] pyre 29 points 2 months ago

here's Jesse Cox going through the exact process except he predicts it too: https://youtube.com/shorts/l8kq4rIc10g

[–] [email protected] 17 points 2 months ago

From what i saw from the game it just looked super bland and boring. No one looked interesting at all, it didn't pop, if someone told me it was a passion project from a 3 man dev team i would've totally believed it.

[–] Angry_Autist 6 points 2 months ago (4 children)

the live service model will literally never leave gaming no matter how much people hate and avoid products because of it.

Mainly due to the fact that MBA's response to consumer rejection is to go twice as hard.

This is why we are in the golden age of the indie game

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[–] [email protected] 82 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (2 children)

There are too many games of this sort. Nobody wants to play them because you have to devote your life to grinding and getting good if you want to be play well.

We need some new ideas and you don't need to bet the company on every game. Instead of pouring millions of dollars into a clone of existing games, develop several smaller more innovative games and see which ones succeed. For every Concord there is a Stardew Valley, Vampire Survivors, or Among Us.

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[–] [email protected] 32 points 2 months ago (6 children)

I never heard of it and searching for it on Steam doesn't give any results so I'm guessing it's not even available here.

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[–] [email protected] 28 points 2 months ago

The only ads I saw suggested it was PS5 exclusive lmao. amazing job Sony

[–] [email protected] 28 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (1 children)

Like the Borderlands movie I'm not really sure who this game is for with the price tag they are asking for it with the f2p options available.

[–] ampersandrew 10 points 2 months ago (1 children)

The price tag is likely to try to slow the bleeding when the writing was on the wall.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 2 months ago (2 children)

I don't know why they keep insisting on live service with an upfront cost. The only way these games are successful is by having a fuckton of teenagers with no money to fill the lobbies and make it feel lively and worthwhile. The minute you add an initial cost, there's just not enough of a player base to support a game with microtransactions.

I'm not a business genius, but they don't have to learn from me. There is the very clear precedent of Kill the justice league that they're choosing to ignore!

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[–] [email protected] 25 points 2 months ago

never heard of it. also I don't have a PlayStation account and I'm not willing to make one to play one game.

[–] [email protected] 19 points 2 months ago

It's dead, Jim.

[–] [email protected] 19 points 2 months ago

PlayStation what? Did they announce this thing at the last state of play?

I always watch those, but I'm pretty sure I've never heard of this...

[–] RightHandOfIkaros 6 points 2 months ago (2 children)

As expected. The fact that this game wasn't marketed well or even that it is a hero shooter are not its only problems. Game has other issues and that's why people don't play it.

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