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[–] [email protected] 75 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

sad German noises

[–] norimee 21 points 4 months ago (3 children)

"who have read books"

Not even a quantity, but just "books". That means that an european average of nearly half the people do not read a single book in a year?

This is so foreign to me, I have trouble to comprehend.

[–] [email protected] 19 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Many people, especially in physically demanding jobs, which often coincide with low education, simply never got into books. They are simply not in their radar as a form of education or entertainment.

Which is kind of understandable. If day job and daily life already fill your time completely, you may just want to be numb in front of a TV.

Also, don't forget that many younger people don't read books that much, simply because they consume different media.

And a final note: look at what the bestselling books are. Cheap romance, crime and thriller crap. Reading those is intellectually nil. You might as well watch the daily soap opera.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Also, don't forget that many younger people don't read books that much, simply because they consume different media.

Good point.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 4 months ago

That's true but (at least here in Sweden and among my friends and classmates) I think most people read at least occasionally. Personally, however I'm in the +10 category by a long shot

[–] [email protected] 6 points 4 months ago (2 children)

It is even worse:

Between 20-25% of the European population is functionally illiterate. In other words: at least one citizen in five does not have the reading and writing skills they need for functioning in society, with all its consequences for education, employment, health care, welfare, social integration and political participation. β€˜More than 73 million adults in the EU… do not have sufficient literacy levels to cope with the daily requirements of personal, social, and economic life’

https://blogs.fasos.maastrichtuniversity.nl/EUS2516/lowliteracyineurope/

So they are not just not reading any books, they literally can't read books.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 4 months ago (1 children)

I could not find info on how they get to 20-25% functionally illiterate. That seems way too high. 17% for Germany. Do you know how they define illiterate?

[–] [email protected] 2 points 4 months ago (1 children)

It can vary depending on the context, but essentially it just means that you can only read/write at a fairly basic level.

For instance, imagine someone who reads at a 4th grade reading level. They can get through basic aspects of life, but get totally lost/overwhelmed if they are presented with anything more complex. For instance, they wouldn't be able to comprehend most official letters. (Thus is especially an issue in Germany since Amtsdeutsch seemingly tries to be intentionally complex....)

They are effectively locked out of most modern jobs, because they can't parse emails effectively or formulate a fitting reply.

It's also something that people are generally very self-conscious about and get pretty good at hiding.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 4 months ago

Interesting, thanks for clearing that up. Wouldn't have thought that this is so common but then again I'm living in a bubble where I mostly know well educated people.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 4 months ago

"Functionally Illiterate" doesn't mean that those people can't read or write. But it does mean that they don't understand what the words even mean.

Or in other words. Just because you know how to do something doesn't mean that you understand how it works. Lots of people drive cars or use computers but many of them have no real understanding on how they actually work.

[–] BeardedBlaze 6 points 4 months ago (1 children)

I'm in the US, it's crazy how many people don't read books.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 4 months ago

More don't read, than do. I'm my opinion.

[–] [email protected] 21 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Isn’t Germany still part of the EU?

This looks like there’s a rough inverse correlation between average temperature or hours of daylight and number of books read.

[–] [email protected] 14 points 4 months ago (1 children)

The source is Eurostat, which states "no data available for Germany". Seems curious indeed

https://ec.europa.eu/eurostat/web/products-eurostat-news/w/ddn-20240809-2

[–] [email protected] 4 points 4 months ago (1 children)

curious != kurios

😬

[–] [email protected] 9 points 4 months ago

Not in this context. Curious can have the same meaning as "kurios", as it does here.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 4 months ago

I guess this overall correlates pretty much with living conditions of the people in those countries?

[–] KestrelAlex 5 points 4 months ago

Do they count audiobooks? Is it about consuming the content of the book or the delivery system?

[–] [email protected] 4 points 4 months ago (1 children)

So consuming text that is not in a book does not count as reading?

[–] [email protected] 3 points 4 months ago (1 children)

I don't think anybody claimed that?

[–] [email protected] 5 points 4 months ago

The title claims it is about "reading habits". The presented data is exclusively about books.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 4 months ago (1 children)

"Less than 5 books" includes 0 books? Otherwise those stats are hard to believe.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 4 months ago

In that case every country would add up to 100%, since the top category is "10 books or more".