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[–] Gradually_Adjusting 160 points 3 months ago (4 children)

It's okay to mock heartless sociopaths in positions of public leadership.

It's always morally correct.

[–] [email protected] 146 points 3 months ago (23 children)

When you mock them based on traits that have nothing to do with their fuckwad-ery, you also hit innocents who happen to have those same traits.

[–] [email protected] 27 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (2 children)

It depends. I have a tiny dick, but that doesn't cause me to buy guns and trucks to compensate, so I don't feel attacked when someone makes fun of some assholes Truck dick.

[–] idiomaddict 19 points 3 months ago

That’s not really making fun of them for having a small penis though: most of the people making those jokes have no idea what their penises look like. Those jokes are based on their behavior and an assumed source of the person’s inferiority complex (which is still fucked up, because it reinforces the idea that having a small penis makes one inferior).

The small hands jokes aren’t even based on trump actually having small hands (at least, they seem pretty average sized to me), but more on a perceived insecurity.

Honestly, the diaper jokes seem the most likely to inadvertently hurt someone for something they can’t help. Everything else is based on his reactions to his physical attributes.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 3 months ago (1 children)

How do you choose to compensate out of interest (asking for a friend.)

[–] [email protected] 7 points 3 months ago

Cooking and oral sex

[–] essell 12 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Then I think it's fair to ask, "Does his height have nothing to do with his fuckwad-ery?"

[–] blanketswithsmallpox 18 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (1 children)

More than likely it does. Little man syndrome is a thing for a reason. Turns out making fun of people for traits they can't change through out their life kinda turns them into a fuckwad.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 3 months ago

Can confirm. I'm 5'3 and spent a good chunk of my young adulthood struggling to not be a fuckwad after being picked on about it my whole life. Doing much better now though (I think).

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[–] UnderpantsWeevil 71 points 3 months ago (2 children)
[–] Gradually_Adjusting 45 points 3 months ago

The point has already been made, but they didn't use MS Paint so I didn't listen then. Thank you.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 3 months ago

How dare you imply I care about short people.

Know your place, short kings. GUILLOTINED. LIKE ALL MONARCHS.

Making you even shorter btw.

[–] [email protected] 26 points 3 months ago (1 children)

If we lived in a society where scrutiny and vitriol were pointed only at the ruling class, we’d live in a utopia, but we do not and therefore should not. As society sits, making fun of someone’s physical appearance or disability yields the ultimate conclusion that everyone should feel, for these characteristics, innately lesser, and that’s not cool.

For instance, and to be topical, would you feel comfortable hearing someone refer to Neil Gaiman as a twiggy, autistic rapist? Because I wouldn’t. No need to associate weight and processing difficulties with the propensity and desire to hurt other.

[–] Gradually_Adjusting 2 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Gaiman isn't in charge of a country or a ruling body, so I'd be with you on that one. I stand by what I specifically said, even though I don't take as hard of a line on it as some others in the comments. Rulers who are malignantly narcissistic cannot be dealt with politely. It has sadly been tried.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 3 months ago (1 children)

In the end, I don’t disagree with the idea of making fun of someone in power, only the language used to do it. Diversifying and sharpening the average person’s lexicon, or creating/repurposing words, would yield the same benefit without the detriment. Obviously the latter is simpler than the former so it’s my pick. I was a fan of that trend circa ~2012. Affluenza still gets a giggle out of me.

[–] Gradually_Adjusting 1 points 3 months ago (1 children)

I'm not contesting any of the logic of your position, but I'm just not there at the moment. If you can take the high road while people are dying, I think that's perfectly admirable. It's just not me.

[–] [email protected] 18 points 3 months ago (1 children)

I disagree I think adding animalistic aggressiom to politics is stupid. Talk about why their politics are bad and harmful, don't call them fatty mcfatfat small handchubs.

[–] HauntedCupcake 13 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Also, normalising insults based on immutable characteristics is just not good. It harms the good people with those same characteristics

[–] [email protected] 0 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Whether it harms "good" people is irrelevant, we shouldn't stoop to name-calling. Full stop.

[–] HauntedCupcake 2 points 3 months ago (1 children)

That's a nice dream, and in my perfect world that would be how it worked

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[–] [email protected] 113 points 3 months ago (1 children)

The jokes were less about his height directly and more about how he was so self-centered, egotistical, power-corrupt (and insecure!) that he had to overcompensate for said height at every possible opportunity.

[–] [email protected] 20 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Also he's supposed to look like wait Walt Disney, right?

[–] [email protected] 47 points 3 months ago (1 children)

No, Michael Eisner, the then-CEO of Disney, whom Dreamworks founder Jeffrey Katzenberg fell out with while he worked at Disney.

[–] Hugin 27 points 3 months ago

Yes. At Disney Eisner was called Lord Fuckwad behind his back. Hence Lord Farquaad.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 3 months ago (1 children)

I'll admit it I made it well into adulthood without knowing that Disney was clearly saying "Lord Fuckwad" to my adolescent face for years. It's maybe the coolest thing about my childhood upon reflection. Fucking hilarious.

[–] NickwithaC 23 points 3 months ago (1 children)

It famously wasn't Disney. It was DreamWorks which was started by ex Disney employees and this is the first thing they did. The whole thing is taking the piss out of Disney's fairytale storytelling and flipping their previous employer several middle fingers.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 3 months ago

Oh right I forgot that bit! Thanks!

[–] [email protected] 5 points 3 months ago (2 children)

Did they ever laugh at or mock him for his height?

[–] [email protected] 54 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (2 children)

Yes.

Fiona: And what of my groom-to-be? Lord Farquaad? What's he like?

Shrek: Well, let me put it this way, princess.

(Shrek dumps Fiona to the ground unceremoniously and heads to a nearby pond to wash up)

Shrek: Men of Farquaad's stature are in..."short" supply.

(he chuckles and Donkey joins in)

Donkey: I don't know, Shrek. There are those who think..."little" of him.

(They laugh even harder)

Fiona: Stop it. Stop it, both of you. You're just jealous that you can never measure up to a great ruler like Lord Farquaad.

Shrek: Yeah, well, maybe you're right, princess. But I'll let you do the..."measuring"...when you see him tomorrow.

[–] UnderpantsWeevil 30 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

In fairness, Shrek is supposed to be a thin-skinned asshole in the first movie, too. One of the other big themes of the first films is "Power makes you an asshole". Farquaad has enormous political power, but Shrek has substantial physical power. That's what brings them into conflict, and that's what drives Fiona away from them both before the end of the movie.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 3 months ago

Yeah I remember that now.

[–] Bytemeister 13 points 3 months ago

Yes, a lot.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 month ago

farkwad is basically a genocidal dictator i think the short thing is maybe even a reference to historical figures

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