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[–] [email protected] 85 points 4 months ago (4 children)

I mean if we are deepfaking things for Elon to do, why pick something so on brand? I guess it lends legitimacy to the scam, because if anyone were to be shilling a crypto scam, it’s that old musky ballsack.

[–] heartbreaker 33 points 4 months ago (1 children)

And people who think he is a genius are more likely to believe it, unfortunately.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 4 months ago

If they wind up believing they got scammed by Elon Musk, something good may come of this in the end.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 4 months ago

Yes, adding legitimacy is the point. The scammers want to scam people.

[–] Lanusensei87 5 points 4 months ago

Web3 evangelists are VERY obsessed with Elon, all they need is a couple of them to not do the due diligence and they'll make bank.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 4 months ago

When trying to scam people, why pick something that they will believe?

I think you answered your own question

[–] [email protected] 53 points 4 months ago

Scamming is bad but I gotta admit.. kinda hard to feel sorry for people taking advice from Elon Musk.

[–] [email protected] 48 points 4 months ago (1 children)

If it has Elon Musk in it in any way, even tangentially, even if it is directly from Elon Musk himself, it is a scam. It could not be simpler to avoid Elon Musk scams, all you have to do is avoid Elon Musk.

[–] alquicksilver 17 points 4 months ago

*checks username for anything Musk* It's clean, we're good.

[–] [email protected] 37 points 4 months ago

Pretty hard to distinguish from Elon's actual scams

[–] Harvey656 32 points 4 months ago

This has been going on for a very long time, just at varying degrees of deepfakery. A couple of years ago it was just a picture of him and a generic computer voice reading a "transcript" that he definitely for sure wrote about etherium and doge coin being the best way to make money.

[–] 9point6 32 points 4 months ago

This again?

You'd think they'd have scammed all the idiots by now, but I guess there's an endless line of them

[–] [email protected] 22 points 4 months ago

TBH fake Elon is far less of the problem than the real dude.

[–] [email protected] 21 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

I'm Canadian and all the YouTube ads lately have been fake Trudeau and Freeland shilling crypto, along with Musk. Every few weeks there's a story in the media about some idiot getting scammed by them. Sad state of affairs.

[–] CarbonatedPastaSauce 21 points 4 months ago (1 children)

People are going to lose so much fucking money once these real time deepfakes are ubiquitous. It's just getting started and they are going after big fish first because it's still tricky to do, but eventually the common phone scammer will have this kind of tech.

Give your family a code word and tell them, "if you get a weird phone call or video chat from anyone in the family asking you for something odd like lots of money, gift cards, saying they have an emergency, saying they need bail money, etc, ask for the code word".

[–] Wogi 19 points 4 months ago (3 children)

Or

Don't post so much content of yourself online.

These bots need something to build off of. It's not like Facebook can look at your picture and imagine your voice. It's gotta be online, someone's gotta go build a bank of it and train a robot to sound like you before that can work. Hawk tua girl is out there but the rest of us who aren't obsessively tiktoking every moment of our lives are fine

[–] [email protected] 9 points 4 months ago (1 children)

It's getting pretty easy:

https://github.com/hacksider/Deep-Live-Cam

I hqd this set this up in about 8 minutes on a moderate gaming PC. It's pretty convincing

[–] [email protected] 2 points 4 months ago (1 children)

You cloned the repository and everything? I looked into that, but the install seemed very annoying, I'll wait until something like this is in a package manager.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 4 months ago

I downloaded the zip file and then set up a venv to run the program. It'll get easier soon though, eventually somebody will package it

[–] CarbonatedPastaSauce 6 points 4 months ago

You and I do that but we can’t control how our family members use social media.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 4 months ago

And what happens when Google is hacked and all of your information is leaked?

I agree, its not a good idea to put yourself on the internet, at the same time its unreasonable to assume the average person can build their own data management system (and not leak any of that to SOMEONE).

Hell, Google had it as a default that any time you use voice to text, it saves that audio file. You don't have to be giving anything personally to the internet for a scammer to get a hold of your voice.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 4 months ago

Wouldn't be surprised if he'd actually do something like that in the near future.

[–] BroBot9000 11 points 4 months ago

No that is just what he does between X rants and being an insufferable idiot.

[–] Hikermick 11 points 4 months ago

I wonder if this will fall under Musk's view of freedom of speech?

[–] [email protected] 9 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (1 children)

If you encounter them, I'd recommend reporting them — not only are they against YouTube's ToS, they are also maliciously preying upon people.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 4 months ago (1 children)

they are also maliciously preying upon people.

Any recommendations where I can report free to play games?

[–] [email protected] 2 points 4 months ago (4 children)

That's a big claim, that every free to play game is maliciously preying on people. Here are some counterexamples: Unciv, Minetest, Shattered Pixel Dungeon. I honestly would have expected to find more love and less hate for free games on a community that is usually such a FLOSS advocate.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 4 months ago (1 children)

I'm not referring to free games, but "free-to-play" games that monetize the playerbase with loot-boxes, battlepasses, confuse-opoly and "micro"transactions. More like league of legends, Fortnite and Diablo immortal than FOSS games, like minetest.

These explicitly prey on people with low-impulse control

[–] [email protected] -2 points 4 months ago (1 children)

I think the term is freemium.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 4 months ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] -2 points 4 months ago (1 children)

From the article you linked

There are several kinds of free-to-play business models. The most common is based on the freemium software model, in which users are granted access to a fully functional game but are incentivised to pay microtransactions to access additional content or more powerful in-game assets.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 4 months ago

Dude, the wikipedia-article is called Free-to-play. The preamble even says

This article is about the business model for video games. For business models other than for games, see Freemium

[–] [email protected] 4 points 4 months ago (1 children)

I haven't seen any advertisements for those games, which i think op referred to.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 4 months ago

Oh, from what they said, it seemed like they were referring to the games themselves, rather than adverts about those games. But if they did mean the ads, then I agree, all ads are bad because they try to manipulate you to spend money - not just any specific ad or group of ads.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 4 months ago

You know exactly what kind of games it meant.

If you want to turn this into a pedantic argument, I'll just point out that the word "every" was your addition.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 4 months ago

Please do a fake Kim Dotcom next.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 4 months ago
[–] [email protected] 1 points 4 months ago

Send bitcoin to elon, tthen he will send back double.

Even real elo say that I wouldn't believe.