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  • President Zelenskiy announces use of U.S.-made fighter planes
    • Ukraine has long waited for the higher-capability jets
    • Kyiv hopes they will change war, Russia vows to shoot them down

Aug 4 (Reuters) - Ukrainian pilots have started flying F-16s for operations within the nation, President Volodymyr Zelenskiy said on Sunday, confirming the long-awaited arrival of the U.S.-made fighter jets more than 29 months since Russia's invasion.

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[–] kescusay 13 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Russia vows to shoot them down

With what?

[–] [email protected] 13 points 2 months ago

With our 100+...

series of explosions

With our 50+....

another round of explosions

With our 10 or so...

more explosions

Blyat.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 2 months ago (2 children)

I think those drones were doing a pretty bang-up job.

[–] IphtashuFitz 6 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

The combo of F-16 plus AWACS plus radar guided AMRAAM’s could prove a deadly counter to Russias continued use of glide bombs. The AMRAAMs have a longer range than those glide bombs, so the Russian aircraft that are launching them could be targeted.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 2 months ago

Quad copter drones are more comparable to artillery shells than fighter jets. Anti personal role.

[–] yesman 7 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (2 children)

This is very good but not war-changing. Ukraine was seriously low on combat jets full stop. F-16 can pretty much do the same job as the Migs and SUs.

As far as dog fighting flankers, without AWACS and fuel tanker support, the capabilities of the F-16 are severely diminished. She's got a small radar, and short range. And NATO isn't going to let the Ukrainians have access to the top shelf armaments bc they don't want Russia, Iran, and China reverse engineering battle captured tech.

[–] kautau 11 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

You’re correct. Though the AWACS and AMRAAMs for the fighters are coming

https://theaviationist.com/2024/05/29/ukraine-to-get-swedish-awacs/

[–] count_dongulus 1 points 2 months ago

But there is one nice improvement, at least: F-16s are able to use all missile modes for NATO munitions instead of the couple available through converted Soviet era fighters. Some important features like BVR and multi-target engagement likely don't work, or are severely limited, with Ukraine's MiGs.

[–] FelixCress 6 points 2 months ago

Good.

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[–] Plopp 5 points 2 months ago

Do they have the SAAB AWACS yet?