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[–] stingpie 5 points 3 months ago (1 children)

I thought this was more common in neurotypical people. Like neurotypical people are a lot more likely to assign other people into categories than neurodivergent people. Maybe it's just the kind of people I surround myself with, or maybe I'm just projecting my own distaste for categorizing people's identities onto others, but I haven't seen my friends participating in any black-or-white thinking.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 3 months ago (1 children)

You just assigned people into categories while purporting distaste for doing so.

[–] stingpie 5 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Sorry. I am sometimes bad at trying to communicate my thoughts. When I was talking about categorization, I meant trying to fully define a person based on minimal interaction. I have known my friends for several years, so I like to think I can understand them, and I even put in a disclaimer saying I might be projecting my own thoughts onto them. I'm sorry if I offended you, but I'm not sure how I did.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 3 months ago (2 children)

You categorized neurotypical people as more likely to categorize people. Pretty funny, is all.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 3 months ago (1 children)

I have a similar experience to stingpie. When I meet someone new, they're a completely unique person to me. It just doesn't cross my mind to take experiences with other people and apply them to this new person. If you ask me to consciously think about it and put a hypothetical someone in a bucket, then I can tell you that given two people with traits x and y, which one is more likely to fall into a particular bucket. But if I meet this hypothetical person, I'm not going to act as if you belong in that bucket. That's not something that comes naturally. I'm guessing this is also what stingpie is trying to express.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 3 months ago

Sure, but at the same time, they were putting a large group of people in one bucket. Hence the irony.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Just because they believe neurodivergent people to be less likely to categorise does not mean neurodivergent people don't do it. What's so funny?

[–] [email protected] 2 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

They were seemingly acting with predijuce while saying they are against it. Just ironic, not malicious or anything, surely.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 3 months ago (1 children)

I absolutely freakin' do and I am always trying my DAMNDEST not to. But jesus christ, you cross me and fuck you. May your whole family burn! But really, I don't care. It's five minutes later. Who gives a fuck? But I wish in my heart of hearts that I could be more open to the shades of gray, and have tried. But nothing gets me hornier than an impassioned conversation. And by horny I mean happy, not that I wanna fuck someone's face. BUT SEE! Even that. Extreme, extreme, extreme.

[–] erebus 1 points 3 months ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 1 points 3 months ago
[–] iamdisillusioned 3 points 3 months ago

I think this is a way to phrase "rigid thinking" but I don't feel that I relate to the phrase. I'd say I'm more of a my way or the highway thinker. Also genericartdad is fantastic.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Is this a common stereotype? I honestly have no clue. I've never run into it myself, but that doesn't really say much about how common it is

[–] TonyOstrich 2 points 3 months ago (1 children)

It is almost the exact conversation I (autistic) have had with all of my non-autistic partners.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 3 months ago (1 children)

I've definitely had issues with rigid thinking and have had conversations (well, fights…) about it with my partners, but I think the reason that I've not run into this specific stereotype is that I'm completely OK with ambiguity which I guess is a bit surprising

[–] TonyOstrich 2 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Isn't that what he is pointing out in the video?

To me, and what I got from the video, everything is basically on a continuum and ambiguous. Nothing is ever absolute, it's just more or less likely.

That doesn't really play well though with the way most people are actually wired to benefit from "lying" (being positive, or reciting positive or affirming mantras) to themselves. I can't speak for any autistic person other than myself, but I personally find the exercise of finding the silver lining or reciting positive affirmations to myself to actually be harmful and upsetting despite knowing that research indicates it is a helpful thing for more neurotypical people. Neither group/person is wrong, they just interpret things differently through no fault of their own.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Oh yeah it was a part of what he was saying, although he seemed to be specifically also saying he's not comfortable with ambiguity and likes it when people "follow rules", which I took to be what some people refer to as "black and white thinking"

[–] TonyOstrich 1 points 3 months ago

Gotcha.

That makes sense. The way I interpreted the statement about following the rules was that although everything is basically shades of gray that needs to be analyzed and have probabilities assigned to, that's really tiring and taxing. When people follow rules (or more generally do what they say they are going to do) it removes the need to process and analyze what they are doing because they are operating within that predefined framework that is already understood.