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this one goes out to the urban planning nerds (mander.xyz)
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[–] [email protected] 49 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (3 children)

This, and we need to reincorporate female trees in urban areas to reduce the rampant pollen pollution caused by exclusively using male trees 🤧

[–] SchmidtGenetics 14 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (1 children)

The cleanup cost from the fruit is what’s prohibitive about that, leaving the fruit isn’t an option since it makes the sidewalks unusable from the mess, it rots and creates mold spores, pests, rodents, etc, they all thrive.

Theres a very good argument to why they shouldn’t introduce females everywhere.

And how’s the males supposed to know if they are pollinating something or not for that matter? It would be less trees making pollen, but there will still be pollen.

[–] grue 21 points 3 months ago (4 children)

Also, letting the homeless and working class forage for the fruit would be way too egalitarian and compassionate. Totally unacceptable!

[–] SchmidtGenetics 11 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Ideally the homeless wouldn’t exist in this scenario, and sure, the public can grab the bottom 8’? The public really can’t be trusted to safely use ladders, so that options right out.

I’m all for it, but realistically it’s not a feasible solution? It’s to costly, wheter it be to collect it and give to public safely, or to provide ladders and medical care for the people who inevitably fall.

[–] grue 6 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (1 children)

My area has an entire non-profit org devoted to urban foraging, so maybe my perspective on its feasibility is a little different.

https://concrete-jungle.org/

[–] SchmidtGenetics 2 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (1 children)

… a non profit relies on donations, needs volounteers, or other source of income, so it’s either paid through taxes like I mentioned, or through money in the end anyways…?

Sure I guess that works? Whatever makes you feel better, but it’s still the same scenario in the end.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

I mean they're harvesting food I bet sales can cover ladders and fuel and whatnot. If you're short on workers ask literally any other non-profit if they wouldn't like half a ton of apples to make pie with for one of their projects, you'll get your workers. Have a general "pluck two get one" policy provided they're not selling the stuff, no other questions asked.

Basically all that's necessary is to have someone responsible for organising things, the economics are trivial as we're literally talking about distributing stuff for free.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 3 months ago

Free food that drops out of the trees? Get the fuck outta here.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 3 months ago

I don't think we are talking about actually edible fruits but I'm not sure

[–] [email protected] 5 points 3 months ago (1 children)

What? Trees have genders? I guess I learned something new!

[–] [email protected] 7 points 3 months ago

News to me too... And I think it might be wrong but I don't know enough to say with confidence.

how I thought it works is that trees have male and female parts, but a single tree can have both parts. And some trees can self-pollinate.

My uneducated guess is that it depends on the species, some are sexed and some are hermaphrodite. That's how it goes in the animal kingdom.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 3 months ago

ULPT: You can pretend your allergy is a cold and call in sick

[–] FireRetardant 22 points 3 months ago (2 children)

These days you're lucky to even get a sidewalk

[–] [email protected] 7 points 3 months ago

All they do is increase taxes though. /s

[–] [email protected] 3 points 3 months ago

"We would by lying, if we said that we were sorry that you don't have sidewalks. However, we don't care about pedestrians, we only care about cars and their vrooms, vrooms." - Probably some city official.

[–] [email protected] 15 points 3 months ago

Gives me grass and trees or give me death

[–] [email protected] 9 points 3 months ago (1 children)

While we're at it, cover parking lots in solar panels.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 3 months ago (2 children)

From what I've heard (and I DO NOT understand it, at all) this is cost prohibitive and impractical.

[–] VinnyDaCat 2 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

It's like a lot of things in life. It depends and it can be complicated.

Upfront costs for infrastructure besides the panels themselves is expensive and in places where electricity is already cheap companies won't bother.

You also have to conduct tests to ensure that the grid and transformers can handle more power, and if they can't then you have more infrastructure that needs upgrades.

I'm not saying we shouldn't do this. We really need to in the long run but it isn't something we can simply snap our fingers and do instantly.

Also, a lot of the unprofitability comes from VC culture in my opinion. The individuals at the top of businesses often times won't stick around with the business long enough to start see the savings from solar energy.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 3 months ago

Not sure how this would be the case, would love to see a reference here.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Tell me more about your evil master plan to make the world a better place for everyone

[–] [email protected] 2 points 3 months ago

Tell it to my neighbors, my tree has slowly become treeless, I planted one in the middle of my front yard so that the house can stay cool in the mornings

[–] PaintedSnail 4 points 3 months ago (1 children)

We used to have them until several years ago they were deliberately removed. Their roots were destroying the roads and sidewalks, as well as infiltrating the underground infrastructure.

[–] [email protected] 18 points 3 months ago

Time to put them back properly with new knowledge. :)

[–] Asclepiaz 2 points 3 months ago

I love that I was fortunate to get a home in an old urban neighborhood in a city that's pretty good. The tree coverage in my hood is nuts. I see a few mature black walnuts and a ton of mature pines among all the other smaller trees. I can walk to the grocery store with 80% canopy coverage the entire way.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 3 months ago

best i can do is Bradford Pear (male)