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Everything #OpenStreetMap related is welcome: software releases, showing of your work, questions about how to tag something, as long as it has to do with OpenStreetMap or OpenStreetMap-related software.

OpenStreetMap is a map of the world, created by people like you and free to use under an open license.

Join OpenStreetMap and start mapping: https://www.openstreetmap.org.

There are many communication channels about OSM, many organized around a certain country or region. Discover them on https://openstreetmap.community

https://mapcomplete.org is an easy-to-use website to view, edit and add points (such as shops, restaurants and others)

https://learnosm.org/en/ has a lot of information for beginners too.

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I first learned of Street-Complete here and I really like it.

It's satisfying to walk around, complete little tasks, and get prizes, scratching a similar itch to Pokemon Go.

Stuck waiting for someone? Add opening hours for a few local businesses.

Have a long walk ahead of you? See if you can add/check house addresses as fast as you can walk.

Want to walk off a few beers before heading home? Complete some tasks in the bar street.

Its a very constructive way to "be right" on the internet.

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[–] [email protected] 120 points 4 months ago (1 children)

I'll always upvote StreetComplete.

[–] [email protected] 25 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (1 children)

I'll always upvote upvotes of StreetComplete

[–] [email protected] 18 points 4 months ago (1 children)

I'll always upvote upvotes of upvotes of StreetComplete

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[–] [email protected] 69 points 4 months ago

Yes, the gamification elements they've been adding lately are brilliant. I was really impressed when I first saw that. Really need to open the app more often..

[–] RealFknNito 64 points 4 months ago (3 children)

I don't like the implication that Pokémon GO was bad when it got a ton of people to go outside and interact with each other. This is cool too though.

[–] vatlark 24 points 4 months ago

That's a great point. I probably could have worded that differently.

[–] [email protected] 13 points 4 months ago

@RealFknNito @vatlark @openstreetmap

It caused a lot of fake stuff to be added to OSM even though its update frequency was slow enough that very little of the fake stuff actually made it into Pokemon Go.

I think it did bring in a few good mappers too though so it wasn't all bad.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 4 months ago (5 children)

It wasn't bad. Now. It is.

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[–] [email protected] 53 points 4 months ago

I love this app so much, also if you really get into it go to the open street map website and draw buildings, roads, etc to add missing places or update changes.

I cleared my whole walkable area of questions then added all the houses and it populates new questions about house number, shop name, etc which I then went and filled out while walking round. In the zone around me the open source map is now by far the best free to access map, Google house numbers are completely random and no where has upto data shops.

There's also a lot of cool projects devoted to mapping under-served areas, especially in regions where aid workers need information or natural disasters have changed landscapes. You draw in roads, towns, farms, etc based on areal imagery.

[–] [email protected] 52 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

Just submitted a first update. Yay dopamine.

The open source community can thank me later. I'll take a banquet and a linux distro named after me thanks.

(Seriously this seems fun - thanks for posting about it)

[–] Eyedust 50 points 4 months ago (2 children)

I love this app, found it a bit ago on F-Droid. I'm moving to a very rural town up north and there's nearly nothing done there. Very excited to get up there and start working on it.

[–] [email protected] 24 points 4 months ago (1 children)

every time i find myself in a rural town, i go out for a walk with streetComplete. I'm often the first mapper of those areas and it's a pleasure to complete the map and see your entries on the updates a couple of weeks later. next time you're there, you have a detailed map of the area available and you know why :)

[–] [email protected] 25 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Explaining your OSM addiction to friends and family is a little harder. "I just need to spend the entire day mapping"

[–] [email protected] 9 points 4 months ago

"don't wait for me, keep walking. i have to answer these questions"

😅

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[–] [email protected] 36 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

StreetComplete is godsend. Editing OSM in JOSM, iD, etc, is not trivial and involves reading a lot of documentation and forum posts (if you care to do things right), which of course isn't anywhere near practical for small devices when you're on the go, surveying.

This app changed my whole routine. The interface is really solid and helps the community target important tasks, rewarding it with little prizes. Althewhile, the gamification is kept at a very healthy level, to avoid attracting leaderboard seekers and whatnot, which would certainly lower the quality of contributions.

I think the contribution day grid (akin to GitHub's thing) as well as the dynamic category explorer, the badges and the OSM-related projects it reveals to you bit by bit really bring everything together. It's an incredible tool!

For the experienced (and this is not said lightly), there is the expert version, which adds more advanced editing features for those looking for a bit more control in regular SC.

[–] [email protected] 33 points 4 months ago (6 children)

I tried it when someone posted about it a couple of weeks ago. It is fun, my son and I go for walks and I include him in the tasks. Unfortunately, we get a lot of road surface questions which are a bit boring.

[–] [email protected] 29 points 4 months ago

You can also add "little" objects like benches, recycling containers or trees in your near environment to the map that come with their own sets of questions

[–] [email protected] 23 points 4 months ago (2 children)

@stiephelando @vatlark @openstreetmap

If a question type gets tedious you can disable that "quest" in the settings.

[–] [email protected] 14 points 4 months ago

If a question type gets tedious you can disable that "quest" in the settings.

That improved my experience. I disabled the things that my city generally doesn't have, and it made my questing much more enjoyable.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 4 months ago (1 children)

If I disable the 3 types of quest I get in my area (road surface, lanes, power pole type) then I get basically no quests, period

I've taken to adding buildings that I'm surprised they didn't already have on OSM and then filling in the quests that auto-populate with that, but its meh

[–] [email protected] 8 points 4 months ago

Have you looked at all the different layers? A while back they added more of those, with different types of quests that don't appear normally.

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[–] [email protected] 26 points 4 months ago

When first reading (or not actually reading) this post, I thought "What's the task? Go to the local bar and drink a beer, then enter the museum and scan a QR code to prove, you are there..."

But then, I realized what it's actually about: Collecting information to show others in OpenStreetMap, like "does the bus stop have a trash bin? Or what kind of asphalt does the street have?"

I think, I'll try this out tomorrow. Thanks!

[–] [email protected] 26 points 4 months ago

StreetComplete to the polls

[–] [email protected] 25 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (1 children)

Friendly PSA that there is also StreetComplete ExpertEdition (on F-Droid only) which has more tasks and crucially allows you to directly edit tags. Very recommended if you know what you're doing and have some more familiarity with OSM.
https://github.com/Helium314/SCEE

[–] Eyedust 7 points 4 months ago

Oh, this is interesting. I'm not the most advanced OSM user, but I'll definitely take a look at this and learn.

[–] [email protected] 22 points 4 months ago (2 children)
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[–] GreyJolly 22 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Thanks a lot for the suggestion, it's quite fun and I'd love a future where OpenStreetMap data is exaustive

[–] [email protected] 16 points 4 months ago (1 children)

It already is better than Google in some areas. For instance, it has way more information on hiking trails.

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[–] jaxxed 16 points 4 months ago (4 children)

Fdroid says that it is bound to jawg.io for tiles. What are the chances that we are giving our data to a company who will take it away from us, or is just using us for free labour?

[–] [email protected] 20 points 4 months ago

It is free labor. However it benefits us all and there isn't any alternatives. I don't think OSM is going anywhere soon. It is has benefits for any people and industries.

Fun fact OSM has had lots of issues with hostile take overs. They now have a dedicated committee on the subject https://osmfoundation.org/wiki/Special_Committee_on_Takeover_Protection

[–] [email protected] 19 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (1 children)

@jaxxed @vatlark @openstreetmap
Very slim. But their privacy policies are online if you're concerned.

You free labour all goes to the OpenStreetMap database licensed under the Open DataBase License.

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[–] [email protected] 11 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

or is just using us for free labour?

It pushes updates to openstreetmap.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 4 months ago (4 children)

@jaxxed @vatlark hello. Long time OpenStreetMapper here! 👋🏻👋🏻

There are problems with corporate influence in OSM. Jawg is not on the radar.

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[–] [email protected] 15 points 4 months ago (2 children)

There's also SCEE, a more advanced version of StreetComplete, and Vespucci, another very powerful application for submitting OSM entries.

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[–] [email protected] 12 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Oh that sounds funny! Having a walk and doing something for the community.

Unfortunately it isn’t available for iOS. 🙁

[–] [email protected] 7 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

There's a web version, too. I haven't played around with it much, but it looks like you can at least comment or mark resolved other people's contributions

EDIT oh here's a better comment re iOS: https://feddit.de/comment/11148500

[–] [email protected] 10 points 4 months ago (4 children)

What's the best android app to use OSM?

I've been using magic earth as a sort of waze alternative but it's not great for looking up store hours or just general info

[–] [email protected] 9 points 4 months ago (1 children)

I use a mixture of Organic Maps and OsmAnd+. Organic Maps is more simple, while OsmAnd+ allows you to set up a lot of customization in different profiles to tailor the experience to different use cases (e.g. one for hiking, one for "I'M HUNGRY SHOW ME FOOD", one for biking etc.).

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[–] [email protected] 6 points 4 months ago

I use Magic Earth when I take my car, Organic Maps when I walk or use public transportation. I don't think there is a single "best app", it depends on your use case.

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[–] [email protected] 9 points 4 months ago (8 children)

Can I throw in that once you get your stride with Streetcomplete you'll love Every Door where you can add Shops and features pretty easily. They really complement each other.

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[–] [email protected] 7 points 4 months ago

I hadn't heard of that. Thanks. Just marked up my neighborhood. This a real clever and simple way to get casual users to contribute.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (6 children)

It is actually pretty fun. However it can't do everything. I use it in conjunction with the Organic maps editing tools and OSM web on desktop

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[–] [email protected] 7 points 4 months ago

Nice! I like this idea a lot :) I'll download and maybe use it as an excuse to walk :)

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