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[–] ChicoSuave 22 points 4 months ago (1 children)

I agree that True Lies is a great action blockbuster with Arnold, but it isn't his last great one. For popcorn fun, there's Expendables 1. For a low key good movie, check out Last Stand, his take on Rio Bravo. It's way better than it needs to be.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Last Stand was a lot of fun. Serious question, does no one else find True Lies to be racist?

[–] [email protected] 13 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Why, because of the “arab terrorist” trope? I mean? A bit I suppose but also it’s not like groups like that haven’t existed in the past/exist today. I don’t recall them getting into the backstory of “Crimson Jihad” at all but given American interventionism has, IRL bread the distain of Western hegemony; you could look at it as an inevitability that they’d exist and a warning as to what might happen to America (and kinda did, on 9/11). That clearly isn’t the movie’s intent though, but I can see how “Arab terror groups exist and do not like America” could become a plot; and like any action flick they do not do any sympathizing with the designated bad guys.

They do kinda cartoonishly kill the leader at the end though, in a very “America good, delight in this malcontent’s ultimate failure, the west always wins, hoorah” kind of way; but this is also a mid-90s action flick from a time before most of us had a way to see through all the “the rest of the world is desolate and savage” narratives spun by the CIA and the state department and rung though our elected officials. So, it’s not exactly gonna be woke.

It’s a great movie but it’s also definitely a self-report on the state of the American zeitgeist at the time, yeah.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 4 months ago (4 children)

Yeah, the middle eastern/arab/persian terrorists are repeatedly portrayed as bumbling idiots, which is I think what I am getting at, vs. them simply being the antagonists.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 4 months ago

It was based on a French movie, and at the time we both had our fair share of islamic terrorism way before Bin Laden, so it was obvious that terrorists would be islamists.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 4 months ago

Most terrorists of any type are idiots. It's why the TSA can be a completely joke and planes generally don't get hijacked or blown up .

[–] [email protected] 2 points 4 months ago

Kinda yeah but kinda no. In that it's meant to be a funny action movie that wasn't taking itself seriously.

And that there are bros like this in those groups. https://www.reddit.com/r/NonCredibleDefense/comments/1dvl8tt/somewhere_in_afghanistan_abu_hajaar_lives/

[–] Crashumbc 2 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

I mean everything in the movie is given a silly spin.

Half the things Arnie and the "good guys" do, are bumbling also, they just come out ahead because they're the good guys ..

[–] JoeKrogan 6 points 4 months ago

No takers for his Mr Freeze role I see 😄

[–] dodeca 5 points 4 months ago (1 children)

The recent 4K release is getting trashed for how bad the AI did "upscaling" or whatever the AI did. I liked this video about it.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 3 months ago

I decided to grab a copy of the Spanish Blu-ray bootleg. It's like watching an old Blu-ray, but there's plenty of grain, and none of that terrible AI bollox.

[–] Thcdenton 3 points 4 months ago

I dont care what people say I liked the sixth day :D

[–] [email protected] 2 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (1 children)

I am a big Arnold fan and an even bigger Cameron fan, and while this movie is fun and definitely worth a watch, it's probably my least favorite Cameron movie (ignoring both Avatars). Not that it's bad, but it crosses over into cringe/cheesiness a little too much for my liking.

[–] Jayb151 3 points 4 months ago

Dude, so I used to think really highly of true lies. Then I tried showing it to my wife one night... Which she was totally down for.

I was hanging on to my Jamie Lee Curtis crush the whole time and my wife spent the whole time basically making fun of it... Which I eventually couldn't disagree with.

It didn't agree well, but it's a fun rhomp. It's kind of like total recall... Which is awesome but also a great laugh at some points.