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Rachel Powell, a mother, was found guilty on nine federal charges.

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[–] LEDZeppelin 167 points 1 year ago (10 children)

Is it necessary to specify “a mother”?

Do they also mention Adolf Hitler, a son, loving boyfriend, and proud dad to a golden retriever, waged war on Western Europe?

[–] [email protected] 90 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

"Rachel Powell, a woman who rawdogged her husband multiple times for the purpose of procreation, was found guilty today." doesn't have the same ring to it.

[–] Sterile_Technique 6 points 1 year ago

for the purpose of procreation

...idk my money's drunken/coked out/etc sex for the purpose of milking a shred of dopamine from her sorry excuse for a brain.

[–] TokenBoomer 3 points 1 year ago

Did not need that image. Kudos

[–] picassowary 40 points 1 year ago (3 children)

if you wanted to get mildly conspiratorial about it, you could say they phrased it that way to make you feel sympathy/pity for her because they don’t want you to think she did anything wrong

[–] [email protected] 39 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I don't think that's conspiratorial whatsoever. It's pretty plainly the intent.

Same as they did for Kim Potter when she went to trial. Cardigan sweater, dressed like everyone's grandmother, looked like she should be offering you cookies every day as you rode your bike by her house.

[–] picassowary 3 points 1 year ago

i definitely agree but i try to hedge my bets cuz you never know how ppl will respond to that kind of information in TYOOL 2023

[–] [email protected] 12 points 1 year ago

Makes me less sympathetic for her. Her having kids though & being part of that MAGA culture is VERY concerning though. But you know.. there are lots of men & women that don’t think too deeply about politics & many that don’t share their spouses politics as well. It surprises me - but I honestly don’t think someone wakes up crazy one day.

Also spouses that get surprised later most likely didn’t know because they were too afraid to ask &/or probe into meaningful & telling areas for one reason or another. And many just go along to get along, & I hate that as I couldn’t be attracted to anyone w/ shitty political beliefs & I feel like others should do the same so us that care aren’t stuck looking for partners or a partner unknowingly being w/ a crazy person.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

Or, "She's a mother? Those poor kids. I have kids, I would never do that." It's probably "they're putting away a mother!" but one could hope.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 1 year ago

I would suggest adding -fucker to the end of that description.

I don't care if she was a mother. Guess that just means you shouldn't have done the crime. Bank robbers don't get to go home to their kids, either.

[–] Coach 10 points 1 year ago

It must be her only contribution to the world. Attempting to overthrow the government aaaaaaaand making a baby.

[–] Grumble 9 points 1 year ago

Maybe she has no other achievements in her life?

[–] cedarmesa 8 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)
[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I agree with @picassowary, but I also read this as complicating the virtuousness surrounding motherhood. We put mothers on a moral pedestal for being sacrificial, yadda yadda, but here is a mother violating that expectation of purity, good sense, decorum, and sacrifice. What questions can we now invite?

How vile are mothers on the far right? How tantalizing is the Kool aid on the far right to seduce virtuous mothers into debased insurrection? How troubling is white supremacy that white women participate in it because they are rewarded for being complicit?

The list goes on if you read the inclusion of the word mother as a way to violate the expectations of motherhood more than read it as a pull for sympathy.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

its quite straightfotward. Having offspring has no significant relation to how virtuous a person is.

The moral pedestral is a thing particularly peddeled in the US (but also other countries) to justify a society that enables a middle class culture still revolving around unemployed stay at home women, often dependant on their husband and living in a state of purposelessness beyonf "being a mom".

It is the toxic femininity to accompany toxic masculinity of a conservative/far right society

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 year ago

Makes sense for sure but I gotta say, I do like a warning that these human diapers have offspring. Staying frosty.

[–] zombuey 3 points 1 year ago

I like to think of it in the sense that they are saying the children are being saved from this psychopath. Like "Can you believe this fuck procreated?"

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago

Perhaps because it was her primary occupation, even if it's not considered formal employment. The name Rachel Powell isn't very unique, so it doesn't leave much other information to identify her from all the other people named Rachel Powell in the US.

It might be an attempt to elicit sympathy, but I dont think so in this case. It might even be more of a subtle way to shame her for not having paid employment.

[–] gameboyhomeboy 55 points 1 year ago

Since they felt the need to say she's a mother, we should mention what a piece of shit she is for helping attempt a coup while her children likely depend on her. What an awful mother she is.

[–] 5lq2y 18 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Is there a website that tracks all of these seditionists and their sentences?

[–] cedarmesa 13 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 12 points 1 year ago (1 children)

We got a federated equivalent to that? Because we could use it.

[–] cedarmesa 6 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)
[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

If anyone else is wondering what kind of a penalty she faces:

The 40-year old Powell faces a maximum sentence of 47 years in prison for the charges, maximum fines of up to $600,000, and up to seven years supervised release.
The obstruction charge carries a maximum sentence of 20 years, $250,000 fines, and 3 years supervised release; destruction of US property over $1,000, 10 years maximum, $250,000 maximum fine, 3 years supervised release; entering a restricted building or property with a dangerous weapon 10 years, entering a restricted building/property one year, and disorderly conduct carries a maximum sentence of 6 months, $100,000 fine and one year supervised release. source

[–] Chekhovs_Gun 3 points 1 year ago

She FA'd and now she FO'd what happens when one attempts to overthrow the government.