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Now it's a matter of sustaining and slow growth. Hopefully. Best thing you can do to see Lemmy succeed is participate: comment, post, doomscroll All+Top Hou ;)
It'll take a while for some of the smaller communities to get critical mass. And that's okay, probably. Critical mass is here for the larger topics already. I'll do my best to help :)
I've mentioned this elsewhere, but without a steady stream of content, this will not work. I look at "All" every day and I find content to be generally lacking.
We need to be organized and have a game plan for how to proceed over the next 3-6 months. Imo, we need to be scraping the top content from Reddit, and we need to be recreating all of the top subreddit communities.
I’ve been pretty happy with the content actually, what do you think is missing?
Not the person you asked, but so far it feels like I see more memes here than I did on Reddit. I don’t see a lot of news, and the communities I was subbed to on Reddit are not active here at all. That includes communities based around running, hiking, nature, and female fashion advice for example.
I have blocked most of the meme communities and all seems just fine to me now.
This helps, but ideally lemmy should make some changes that give smaller subs more equality with bigger ones in the sorting.
Right now even if a small community is active, it just gets drowned out by the bigger ones, even in your subscription feed.
I think they are working on tweaking the hot sort a bit more to make it more representative so the huge communities don't drown out the smaller ones especially in subscribed
Or some equivalent of a multireddit where you can look at some quiet communities as a block.
The memes are currently overshadowing a lot of other content types, due to how the hot sorting works. Even if a small community is active, it doesn't make it to your front page because its votecount doesn't compete with those of a bigger community.
The "best" sorting type which I hope will come eventually, aims to address this by including one post from each community, before including a second, etc.
This should help small communities which still have activity, to be seen more. Currently, I'm having to go look in smaller communities manually, to see if there are new posts.
Is there a GitHub issue I can follow for this sorting?
I hear that, yeah the interest-specific communities haven’t caught up yet for sure. A lot of them have only a handful of posts if they do exist.
Definitely a lot of memes, but I feel like I am seeing a good amount of news though? Actually I feel like reddit was getting to be pretty spotty about news, there were a couple weeks I used both and lemmy consistently showed me the headlines much sooner.
I browse in compact mode on memmy and scroll past the memes usually fwiw, so it may just be a matter of my perception
I was on Reddit a lot to see chatter about games I enjoy. The presence of Destiny 2 or Diablo 4 players seems pretty quiet on Lemmy. A lot of game devs are on Reddit and I don't know how many of them have or will move to another platform.
Honestly, I'm fine with Lemmy staying small for a good bit.
For me, Reddit and now Lemmy are time wasters. I come here to laugh at the memes, catch some news, and maybe see some bobs.
Sometimes news articles don't have any comments, so I'll just read the article and maybe add a comment, or just upvote and move on. Some more news content would be nice, and hopefully the local provincial/state and even city groups get some traction soon so I can leave reddit entirely instead of lurking local subreddits without signing in.
I am more than happy for reddit to become a lightning rod for bots and shills now that I have a basic understanding of this platform
I'd rather read a handful of genuine comments, discussion, and opinion/insights from real people on Lemmy than hundreds of divisive comments, bad faith arguments, bots, and irrelevant forum sliding jokes/tangential rants that have polluted reddit.
This opinion resonates with me, especially regarding the people on the other end. At this point I've nothing but positive experiences with folks here.
Did you have a look at Reddit lately? The content quality is shit. Personally I find much more interesting stuff on Lemmy atm.
I actually started my full on boycott this week. Lol.
quality is shit.
This may be the case, but I still think there must be stuff worth selectively grabbing, and there's no good reason not to...
I am here for the comments, not articles.
I don't care about articles since it is usually just one person's opinion. I want discussion with other people, where ideas can be challenged and tested.
Adding links will not help that.
For me, personally, it is good enough right now. I do open reddit sometimes for smaller communities not active here, but if we keep it at this traffic, I will be satisfied.
One of my favourite things about Lemmy is the "New Comments" sort mode. It's great for finding those discussions.
I agree, there needs to be a plan for content. But I disagree on the means.
I disagree with reposting Reddit. If content isn't unique, people will just go to Reddit. Repeating memes is one thing (it's fun and nostalgic), but wholesale content duplication will just lead to drowning the signal to noise ratio.
We could autopopulate some content. That only works if the comment traffic is there too, or it's just shouting into the void. For example: it doesn't help to have a bot posting Reuters articles automatically to c/news if no one is interacting.
I plan to make a utility for myself to help with my own content. I really want to see c/printSF take off, for example, so I'm going to do my best there. But I can't do it for every community I want to see haha :)
People will only go back to Reddit if the user experience is better, and right now the only remaining Reddit app is a dumpster fire.
I agree that their app sucks. But Lemmy also has a lot of rough edges (particularly a lack of good mod tools).
Also, if you believe reddit's released numbers, only 3% of their users even used third party apps. So maybe their app sucks, but the users are oblivious and will keep using it.
The app? The website is a dumpster fire. The Algorithm has been really screwed and has 2 day old posts sitting on users front page. The entire content there is garbage so I don't see how you can complain about the content here. Just post what you find interesting.
How bout we not recreate the shit hole that is reddit. I can not express the relief I felt when I got out. You can't make me go back!
Let's focus on growing the niche communities we have instead copying other sites.
I absolutely understand and appreciate the sentiment, but we should not try to deny our origin story. Reddit was great for a long time there is much we can still learn from it.
I dunno... spez isn't done pissing reddit off yet. He's got more up his sleeve.
There's definitely going to be more reddit exoduses. Over the last 10 years, there were several moments where this could've happened but there weren't any viable options (except Voat, but that went to the Nazis 👎). Now that there's Lemmy, Squabbles, Tildes, etc..., I think people's appetite for putting up with reddit's bullshit is a lot less. I think the next big one will be when reddit introduces the new "awards" system in a couple of months.
There'll likely be another spike when sync/boost finally drop their lemmy versions.
Congrats in weathering the brunt! It's been very exciting watching. However, I suspect it won't be the last or largest wave.
Looks good to me so far. Slow growth means less work for admins and lower server cost. Lemmy has delivered more memorable moments over the last few weeks than Reddit has over the last few years. 🙌
Well shit, now Lemmy is officially dead /s
It's a lot better than the Threads graph haha
Oh well. I'm here to stay, so there's that.
Yeah I think this is to be expected, I agree we'll probably see slower consistent growth from here
no more doomscrolling, I'm down for the other stuff though.
..but no butt stuff.
....fool me 23,587 times
Oops, I accidentally dropped that bottle of lubricant. Would you mind picking that up for me?
So glad I found this place. Here to stay and grow this alternative.
Is that bump just for lemmy.ca, or for all instances?
Top post is just lemmy.ca. I posted the all instances version in another comment and they look the same, more or less, just scaled up.
Thank you! I was thinking surely there have been more than a couple thousand new converts. :)
One thing to note: Lemmy only counts you as active if you post or comment. So idle accounts won't count in the total if they didn't comment or post on that period.
Based on the assumption that 90% of all users are idle, this might actually be pretty good numbers from a network health perspective.
Compare to Reddit where a user is counted as active in any sub if they see a post from that sub. So hard to compare apples to apples.
I think the 90% assumption only holds true after some time. Because right now Lemmy is still the hot new thing which means that probably more than 10% of the people are active. Although that is probably changing right now as indicated by your graph.
Oh, source for chart: https://the-federation.info/node/details/19879 -- lemmy.ca active users past month. The wider Lemmy chart looks similar.
I think something to consider is that we are just over a month out from the Reddit blackout where you would expect to see a significant drop from those who checked things out for a couple days while Reddit was down, then left. I'd be curious to see what the stats look like a week from now.
i think the idea of 'lemmy day' on reddit would be a good one. instead of linking to articles, post on lemmy and link to the lemmy post on reddit.
we did similar to digg all those years ago...
the idea has been floated to do this on August 1st..
Just do it every day if you really want to still be active on Reddit.
Thank you for sharing this.
Been thinking a lot about the overall extent of content shared and user types involved in growth or just simple involvement.
What is it that we have found about our habits of use with migrating over from Reddit?
Fulfillment of niche topics for informative need without commenting or low participation.
Trend analysis on subject.
Central point of truth or awareness for a subject.
Community sense of belonging to subject.
I come to see new things I follow or to look for help on something. I like having somewhat of an aggregated news feed from several news sources.
I comment on things I feel I can contribute to but while typically not when it’s just an informative share. You get an upvote if it qualifies. Kind of like a RACI (Responsible, Accountable, Communicated and Informed) approach.
R - you get a lengthy comment with possible responses.
A - A comment for follow up. With an upvote.
C - upvote and comment potentially usually a thank you
I - upvote as a thanks