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[–] PugJesus 26 points 5 months ago (2 children)

New Zealand had passed a similar law due to take effect in 2025. However, the legislation was removed from the statute book on Wednesday after hefty criticism from farmers and a change of government at the 2023 election from a center-left ruling bloc to a center-right one. New Zealand said it would exclude agriculture from its emissions trading scheme in favor of exploring other ways to reduce methane.

Fucking farmers.

Good on Denmark!

[–] grue 5 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (1 children)

Wait, WTF does "removed from the statute block" mean? Did they pass a new law repealing the old one, or did the new government just say "nah" and cross it out without a legislative vote?

[–] Viking_Hippie 3 points 5 months ago

The latter. Like fucking children acting out.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

That's why you harness your cows with an anal pilot light, to flare off methane and prevent it from reaching the upper atmosphere.

EDIT: More seriously, for cows kept in a barn, probably better to capture or flare it off at a roof vent:

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-25922514

German cows cause methane blast in Rasdorf

Methane gas released by dairy cows has caused an explosion in a cow shed in Germany, police said.

The roof was damaged and one of the cows was injured in the blast in the central German town of Rasdorf.

Thanks to the belches and flatulence of the 90 dairy cows in the shed, high levels of the gas had built up.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 5 months ago (2 children)

So…. Another gas tax. Fantastic.

[–] grue 10 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

This, but not ironically. (Please stop subsidizing gasoline!)

[–] [email protected] 5 points 5 months ago
[–] Viking_Hippie 4 points 5 months ago

a change of government at the 2023 election from a center-left ruling bloc to a center-right one

National is a right-libertarian party that campaigned on tearing down large portions of the government without adding anything.

The only way they could possibly be considered center right is if you move the scale so far right that Javier "Captain Ancap" Mileil (current president and demolisher of Argentina) is suddenly considered just your standard right winger rather than a completely unhinged fanatic.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 5 months ago

A step in a marginally better direction. Next step: ban animal agriculture.

We need to solve the problem, not just tax it. Animal exploitation, while reason enough to ban it on its own, is also a primary driver in climate change and zoonotic diseases. If you want to solve either of those existential problems, banning animal agriculture must be a part of that strategy.

[–] AA5B 3 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (2 children)

The article is missing too many details:

  • Why pigs? I thought by far the biggest offender were ruminants
  • The article says “cows and pigs” but how does it apply to similar animals? I’ve recently had bison and elk but there are more? Or are they enough of an edge case to not worry about it.
  • There are additives to cattle feed that reduce methane emissions: does the tax make any adjustment to encourage that?
[–] Azteh 6 points 5 months ago (1 children)

For part two, we don't breed bison and elk in Denmark. Pigs and Cows are pretty much the only animals we breed that we also eat. We have sheeps too, but not in the same proportion.

[–] Azteh 4 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Having just read it, it comes down to a CO2 tax on animals in general and not just cows and pigs.

"En CO2-afgift på udledninger fra husdyr. Der indføres en afgift på 300 kroner per ton CO2 i 2030 stigende til 750 kroner per ton CO2 i 2035 med et bundfradrag på 60 procent. Den effektive afgift vil dermed udgøre 120 kroner per ton i 2030 stigende til 300 kroner per ton i 2035."

Posted the actual Danish text in case someone wants to translate into their own native languages in case of specifics. I'm surprised the agricultural workers agreed to this.

[–] AA5B 1 points 5 months ago

Wow, that’s really good news for the environment if it is general to livestock, and that much more of a miss for the headline

[–] Viking_Hippie 2 points 5 months ago

Why pigs? I thought by far the biggest offender were ruminants

Someone correct me if I'm wrong, but I'm pretty sure the focus is on pigs rather than cows simply because we have a lot more of them. By a larger margin than the difference in emissions per animal.