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cross-posted from: https://lemmy.zip/post/18019157

Once upon a time, in a galaxy not so far away (this one, in fact), a few internet rebels decided that they were tired of the corporate overlords controlling their online lives. Thus, the fediverse was born — an attempt to wrest control of microblogging services, such as Twitter and its ilk, away from centralized powers and into the hands of the people.

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[–] [email protected] 64 points 5 months ago (3 children)

The article went out of its way to not mention Lemmy

[–] gedaliyah 37 points 5 months ago (3 children)

It is weird. Lemmy is the second largest fedi platform, having long since passed Pixelfed. But it is rarely mentioned in articles like these. I'm not sure what makes it such the black sheep.

[–] [email protected] 23 points 5 months ago

One reason is reddit is still much lower in the public consciousness, compared to Instagram, which is effectively the biggest social media nowadays.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 5 months ago (1 children)

If they've heard of Lemmy then it's probably the Tankie connection that's putting them off. If.

Guessing Kbin/Mbin is also either unheard of or tainted by association.

Or it could just be: "But why ~~male models~~ not Reddit?"

[–] [email protected] 2 points 5 months ago (1 children)

which is hilarious because this website still brews lukewarm moderate takes and there's like, what, one tankie instance?

[–] [email protected] 3 points 5 months ago

Eh, it's quite leftist here and VERY atheistic but honestly I've seen more insane takes come out of Reddit. Here there is reason and sense to those takes, as well as substance.

[–] Tag365 2 points 5 months ago

Strange. Lemmy was the real entry point for me to enter the Fediverse.

[–] [email protected] 32 points 5 months ago

And instead mentions Bluesky, which I wouldn't even really classify as part of the Fediverse. Sure, it's federated, but it's pretty much just federated with its own self, and isn't accessible from any part of the Fediverse at large.

[–] dogsnest 11 points 5 months ago
[–] [email protected] 21 points 5 months ago (2 children)
[–] [email protected] 26 points 5 months ago

Agreed lol, and Threads

[–] [email protected] 7 points 5 months ago (2 children)

I may have missed something: what's the issue with Blue Sky?

[–] [email protected] 34 points 5 months ago (1 children)
  • doesnt use ActivityPub, so it federates on its own protocol...
  • is not fully decentralized, in that it requires 'routers' managed by big companies for some core features
[–] [email protected] 5 points 5 months ago

Thanks for letting me know.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 6 points 5 months ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 4 points 5 months ago

It was my pleasure! The article brought me too up do date. :)

[–] [email protected] 17 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (1 children)

The article is nice, but I'm not sure if I'd send it to friends that aren't familiar with the fediverse. It seems to gloss over some problems and focus less relevant ones

It doesn't touch on the issues with Blueskys protocol and makes it sound like an equivalent choice (or worse, a better choice). In the downsides section it touches on racism in badly moderated instances, and the difficulty of setting up an instance. Those issues aren't relevant to the vast majority of users who will join a large instance that has defederated from the bad stuff.

It's a nice article for those who are already somewhat familiar, but a bad first impression

[–] jelloeater85 2 points 5 months ago

Yeah, I think alot of media outlets just don't understand the fedi... Or much TBH 😂

[–] Resol 16 points 5 months ago

Once again, us Lemminos go completely unnoticed.

[–] [email protected] 13 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (1 children)

tl;dr: Here's everything you need to know about the fediverse, assuming you're never going to use it. Mastodon, Bluesky, Threads, Friendica. Now, back to our regular coverage of all the biggest social companies, including TikTok, Facebook, Instagram, Twitter, Snapchat and Reddit, as well as funding and acquisitions of new social startups.

[–] jelloeater85 2 points 5 months ago

Yeah, it feels like pandering crap for sure.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 5 months ago

This reads like a whole lot of research was boiled down to fit the "barely an article" constraints of a casual news outlet. The outline is all over the place but seems well-intended; it's just not clear what information we're supposed to take away from this.

Kudos for mentioning GNU Social, Zot and Diaspora, but I'm not really sure any of them are relevant anymore?

[–] Sanctus 10 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Fuck Bluesky for breaking interoperability before it even started. There was no reason to not use the open source protocol.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Why does it seem to be getting more traction than Mastodon? Makes no sense.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Discoverability on Mastodon is not as good IMO and custom feeds on Bluesky are amazing.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 5 months ago (1 children)

So, to be clear, Bluesky is not a knee-jerk reaction to Twitter's enshittification and is actually very good?

[–] [email protected] 2 points 5 months ago

In my opinion yes.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Was just listening to the latest episode of Dot Social podcast where there was a discussion with CEO of Ghost (alternative to Substack). They're integrating ActivityPub into the platform, but where they're going with it is that you can use your Fediverse ID instead of email to sign up.

Once they have that worked out, any likes or comments automatically migrate back to the fediverse. Replies back to replies also show up in your timeline and your followers can see them. This makes discovery pretty effortless. They can also use the stats to keep track of engagement across all fediverse services.

It also means turning one-way streams like RSS (podcasting), email services, and commenting services into common two-way communities.

You're now going beyond just catching up to existing services and doing things just not possible in closed silos. Real "Aha!" moment.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 5 months ago

@[email protected] Thanks for sharing, I haven't listened so it was really interesting!

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[–] [email protected] 6 points 5 months ago (1 children)

My first instinct was „meh“ but this reads like a great guide for non tech users to grasp the fedi.

[–] jelloeater85 1 points 5 months ago

Eh, I definitely think it could be better and but still approachable.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

I feel like this article should be posted on centralized social media platforms instead, in order to attract new users to the Fediverse.