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[–] Rapidcreek 30 points 3 days ago (2 children)

Right wing meltdown in 3-2-1

[–] SkyezOpen 8 points 3 days ago

As if they're ever not melting down.

[–] Pacmanlives 2 points 3 days ago

Will there be a gun rebate now? I need to protect myself from this public crisis

[–] BeMoreCareful 13 points 3 days ago (1 children)

I think that this might enable them to do some meaningful research into gun violence. Meaningful research that does not exist in the US in 2024 because the NRA lobbies against anyone that attempts to publish data on the subject.

There's a long list of public entities that are prohibited from publishing this research. Really strange in a country where guns are so available.

[–] uberdroog 8 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Congress stopped research for 25 years. They knew what the results would show and that is gonna make the conversation much more difficult.

[–] SupraMario -3 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (1 children)

No they did not. Tons of research has come out during that time. They put a stop to funding research that held a bias. Which at the time was from the CDC wanting to make shit up to push an anti2a agenda. The head of the CDC stated during that time that they wanted to use research to prove guns are a public health crisis, no matter how the came to that conclusion. They had a ton of really flawed studies as well that were proven to be terrible studies with a major bias. In science you can't just make studies say what you want without being criticized, and that's what they did. It's why the dickey amendment was passed with bipartisan support in 96.

Edit: you can downvote me all you want, this is exactly what happened. This isn't some fake news shit from the repubs, it's actual history. It's not my fault you've been fed a lie that the cdc was bared from studying gun violence.

[–] uberdroog 3 points 2 days ago (1 children)

We were just entering the distopian gun fetish hell hole in 96. 2001 pushed us over the edge. Every chaw head feared terrorists and then faux news yelled them into being anxious over their neighbors and urban centers. Science has time and time again shown that faciests are bad and giving them guns is bad for everyone.

[–] SupraMario -1 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (1 children)

The fuck are you talking about? Nothing you just rambled off makes any damn sense.

[–] uberdroog 1 points 2 days ago

Conservatives are really putting out fires.

[–] andrewth09 9 points 3 days ago (1 children)

I don't see the US Surgeon General as the correct person to make meaningful changes to curve gun violence.

I do see this as the perfect story for right-wing pundits to turn this into a "the military is gonna take your guns" dog whistle.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 days ago

They’ll say the gubment is taking your guns either way, so we might as well try and fix shit anyway.

[–] ACEUSA 1 points 2 days ago

With the 2024 presidential election coming up and the surgeon general's declaration, gun policy will certainly be discussed by the candidates, who have differing stances on the issue. President Biden makes gun control a principal issue in his administration, using executive orders, legislation, and public calls on the gun industry to help achieve his goals of reducing the amount of gun violence in the United States.

Former President Trump has not maintained a consistent stance regarding gun policy since 2016. At times, he opposed background checks, assault weapons bans, and red flag laws. However, while in office Trump pledged his support of red flag laws, banned bump stocks, and voiced support for universal background checks.

You can learn more about all the candidates’ positions on gun policy here: https://ace-usa.org/blog/election-2024/gun-policy-overview/

[–] Granite -5 points 3 days ago (1 children)

I mean, I follow the logic but this still doesn’t feel right.

[–] BertramDitore 36 points 3 days ago (6 children)

It feels right to me. People are being injured, maimed, permanently disabled, and killed. All by a particular piece of readily available technology. When we can point to the single thing that causes all those individual health emergencies, and it’s consistently happening across the country on a daily basis to many many people, in public spaces that are otherwise quite safe, that’s most definitely a public health crisis.

[–] [email protected] 22 points 3 days ago

Additionally, all the mental health impacts. Our children are afraid to go to school, a place they are legally bound to be, because of gun violence.

[–] Granite 10 points 3 days ago
[–] [email protected] 5 points 3 days ago

It's so bad even toddlers are killing people with them.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 3 days ago
[–] [email protected] 2 points 3 days ago

If you look at gun violence the way you look at disease I'm sure there are correllaries. Cycles of one person inflicting pain on a group, and that group transmitting that pain back onto a different group.